Genesi now listed as IBM Partner on IBM's site

[CodeSmith]

I'd really like to hear Targhan's thoughts on this, given the editorial he wrote a few months back, when Mai Logic got their own IBM certification.  If you look at the Ready For IBM Technology list of companies, you will notice that both Mai Logic and Marvell (Genesi's choice for the Pegasos 2 chipset) share the same list with Genesi.

I wonder if Targhan would have been as forthright if he knew Genesi was also going down this path...

The bottom line: Their stuff is "acceptable" for some purpose at IBM, they completed paperwork, and they made a grand statement. In other words, the press-release isn't worth reading--it's only value would be to another large company, and they would do much more research than what has gone into this article!

This has shaped up to be nothing more than the work of some spin-doctors on nothing of real imporance!

[CodeSmith]

@Targhan

I'm glad to see you're man enough to admit that we all #### up once in a while, and not try some weaselly "evasive maneuvers".  I guess I was still a bit sore at your editorial, and seeing this announcement brought it all back.  My bad :oops:

[CodeSmith]

@Neko: maybe he was referring to the Articia Sa and the micro-ATX board?

[CodeSmith]

@bbrv:

I disagree - this is exactly the same certification Mai Logic has.  Trying to make your certification seem somehow better than Mai's is just marketing fluff.

That said, I wish you success, you're currently the best chance we have of bringing the name Amiga back into the spotlight.

[CodeSmith]

Sure, but remember we're talking from an amiga perspective here - anything that does not exist right now does not exist.  Sorry, but that's how I've learned to deal with amiga companies.  I know you have a much better track record, but I like to play it safe.  You understand, right? :-)

[CodeSmith]

@BBRV: The fact that everything is in one company is IMHO not great. Look at Apple vs wintel: Apple owns everything, they have less than 10% of the market.  In the x86 world (the 90% of the remaining 90%), no-one owns the hardware (that's why it's so cheap!) or the software (Microsoft owns the OS, but they don't have any restrictions on how ppl use it, so unless you care about messing with it, it might as well be open).  To *really* go nuts on the PPC, you need to let go of either hardware (like Bill Gates or Linus) or let go of the software (like Michael Dell).  Hang on to both and you become like Steve Jobs.

@Neko: It's a bit late to start complaining about the level of trolling on amiga sites, don't you think?

[CodeSmith]

@bbrv:

I'm not going to tell you how to sell your wares, that would be a tad arrogant on my part :-)  I was just saying what I would do in your shoes, after all this is just a friendly chat, not a board meeting...

Did you just call me a sandwich?  :-D