The MorphOS lust may soon be over...

[haywirepc]

After lusting over MorphOS for years... I'm finally getting a g4 mac to try it out. (hopefully this weekend)

A friend of mine has a g4 emac he's selling me for next to nothing.

What I want to do is FIRST before deciding to register it is test old games on it. For example, I want to test Super stardust aga and other AGA games and see how good the performance is. People have told me they can run any amiga games on morphos even with a 1.25ghz emac like I'll be getting and I just find that hard to believe. on a 2.0 ghz pentium pc aga games lag and work pretty crappy. Maybe powerpc is just that much better?

I want to try aga demos and all the old classic stuff too.

In short, I want to use morphos for my all things amiga box (new and old)

I don't want to see skipping frames, laggy sound or demos skipping scenes
because it can't keep up with an amiga 1200 from how many years ago...?

In short, i want ALL amiga software to work and work well, emulated or not.

I've been a big aros supporter for years but no really, I need a modern browser and other things aros just can't do. Besides this even on a 3ghz
aros box the performance of classic stuff is sometimes very %&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!ty and that just kills my cool amiga experience.

So I am hoping to make the morphOS machine the machine I use for dos games through dosbox, classic amiga games, demos and apps...
Plus I'm hoping for SOME new software. I also want to control a windows xp extra box through remote desktop, use google docs for anything like that I need...

Watch youtube, email, telnet to bbs systems, (is there a telnet client for morphOS?) YES! I want the elusive every day machine...

If the 1.25ghz emac won't do what I need its a shame, those are kinda sexy even with the big honking crt. Anyhow, at least I'll get to finally try it and decide if buying a supported g5 mac would be a good option to finally get a box to do everything amiga... (and more!)

Please morphos guys, post your experience, let me know after install what I should install or add, what to do to tweak things and so on.

Aros is still rocking, and I hope the best for AROS, but I'm taking a journey to the blue camp for awhile...

:p

[haywirepc]

First post from new emac. Still running osx. I think I changed my mind and will dual boot... Is there a tutorial somewhere for dual booting osx/morphOS?

Only a 40 gig drive in this thing though... How much space for MorphOS?

I am aware this thing may be too slow for some things, more interested in just testing MorphOS. If its too slow to smoothly run aga games and other intensive classic stuff, I will get a supported g5 mac before I register.

I don't like there registration being strapped to one machine... So I wouldn't want to register for this machine then find its too slow...

Steven

[haywirepc]

Okay booted from cd... But apparently owb does not work.

Can someone tell me how to set network in preferences? I'm using a wired network. osx autodetects and just works...

Do I have to do a hard drive install before networking works? Kinda wanted to check this out before commiting to install...

Steven

[haywirepc]

okay got network working. Don't have osx 10.4 install cds so I will have to
resize the partition with ubuntu to install.

does anyone know, can I use airport card or wifi in MorphOS? If not I will have to leave this machine downstairs next to my router and use a wired connection grrrr...

This emac has no airport card, is anyone using something I can get on ebay for wifi with morphOS?

[haywirepc]

Well what sucks is I have a 2 year old and I moved all my computer stuff upstairs because well... he likes to destroy everything in HIS living room...

I didn't feel like running network cables upstairs so I just use wifi but the router and stuff is downstairs.

Maybe its time to run some network cables, but thats just going to be a big PITA.

[haywirepc]

Here's another stupid question, but what joysticks work with morphOS? do the competition pro usb joysticks work?

[haywirepc]

Well I am happy to say I am posting this from MORPHOS on the emac.

The dual booting was a little confusing but I'm happy that it worked. GOOD GUIDE in pdf
for that saved the day.

First impressions... Slick, fast and beautiful. I want kens icons and would like to change the theme or window borders though. Does morphos allow os3.x window decorations like AROS?

MorphOS flies compared to osx. Very nice!

[haywirepc]

Wierd but youtube videos do not play... Just kind of hangs, few minute wait and video still does not start... Thats a big dissapointment because that was one thing I hate about AROS...

Anyone know why or is there some settings I need to tweak?

[haywirepc]

Was using html5...

I don't know I also just borked my install by installing the deluxe chrystalis pack.
Bunch of stuff wasn't working, getting netbsd socket error message.

Reinstall, but looks like some of that chrystalis stuff still there, but the browser works. Now going to format the partition and do a clean install again...

So far all i can say about MorphOS is that it looked nice. NOT having a good first time trying this.

[haywirepc]

Would have been nice to know that. A few youtube videos and web pages mention it as the first thing you should install after morphos.

I guess it was good at some point... But currently, it total screws up the latest morphOS fresh installaion.

Other first impressions... When you install icaros, you have lots of programs,
lots of software to do most things.

MorphOS is really barren in comparison. My first suggestion to the MorphOS team is include more apps. This is really light on software. Maybe thats good so you can build your own system, but to a new morphos user, its not encouraging.

Aren't there lots of morphos games, productivity apps and more? Why not just
include them on the install?

Tomorrow I will reformat the partition and reinstall to fix the chrystalis virus.



After that I'm going to try and install a few things, like milkytracker and also
test how well or not well this runs classic games, demos and apps. So far my experience has not been positive. I hope tomorrow finds me liking this more...

Steven

[haywirepc]

Well I managed to reformat the dh2 drive and do a clean new re-install, removing whatever problems the chrystalis pack caused.

So far, my experience with MorphOS has not been at all positive. First of all, youtube videos does not work. I'm going to try spoofing as ipad but so far, youtube videos do not play, and that was one of the big selling points to me since AROS can not view youtube videos (yet)

Next, the spareness of the initial install means you can't really try much out, other than checking out the system core stuff like utilities...

Unfortunately, no support for airport card means no wifi. I've moved this machine upstairs and since I have no wired ethernet or hubs this means no internet with morphOS. Later tonight I'm going to copy a bunch of morphos stuff to a thumb drive and see how some programs actually work...

I guess I was spoiled in AROS because an icaros distribution includes tons of software. This? almost nothing.

The other thing is themes and the look and feel. Yep just don't like it.
Appears to MACLIKE to me. Why folders and not drawers?

No screen dragging?

Anyone have a list of system friendly 68k apps I can try out?

And and I'm trying to remain positive, so I'll keep trying it out. The one thing
positive I can say is that it boots in 6 seconds, even on a lowly emac 1.25ghz.

[haywirepc]

Yes but I was asking for suggestions. Can you suggest some? Hopefully I can find some online...

I will also be testing classic apps like games and demos in emulator on morphOS.

[haywirepc]

Long day today, tomorrow is another day. I want to test classic apps in emulator and system friendly apps next...

So far, not really digging this. In my estimation its better than os4 but worse than aros, but this is just my initial feelings. Hoping I'll like it more after running it through its paces...

[haywirepc]

RTFM yes point taken, I'm pretty sure I scanned through the readme file must have missed the youtube stuff.
 
And while we're on that subject don't go attacking a new users because who thinks "Gee my browser is not working right, let me update my user scripts" Any other OS system, the browser just works right from a clean
install, so there. Sorry this does not work from a clean install, but it does not work right.
 
And geez, people are sure critical. Sorry I haven't drank the cool aid from either the red or blue camps so I'm still allowed to think independantly and have an opinion, even if you don't like it. I'm allowed to think it looks too mac like or that I don't like the look of the ugly window decorators. Yes you can change it? Great, but I'm allowed say I don't like the default look.
 
If you do good for you.
 
On the chrystalis pack, someone here besides me said its a huge mess. Don't assume user error when others are saying it borks the whole system...
 
So far, both the browser does not work right, and the "upgrade pack" everyone said should be the first thing you install totally screwed up my system, and your attacking me like I'm retarded.
 
Hey dumbass, there is nothing in the manual about this software addon everyone says is a must have completely screwing up the system, so rtfm? That would not help regain the hours I lost having to completely start over with the install.
 
 Oh and I'm sorry I'm not allowed to ask questions because other people have asked the same questions. GEEZ what a friendly bunch of nerds you are...

[haywirepc]

I agree. I'm going to play with it more this week. I'm pretty sure I'll like it
alot more once I get alot more software installed for testing.
 
Many people here provided lots of sources, thanks!
 
As far as the EMac itself, I really like it. Its compact, nice keyboard and mouse, Apple makes good elegantly designed hardware... I was just never big on paying so much for it. Luckily, g4/g5 hardware is super cheap now.
 
Best regards,
 
Steven