CommodoreUSA site updated

[haywirepc]

This "company" and I use that term loosely, really loosely, is a joke.
 
Call the phone # the site, its a voicemail box. Very impressive.
 
Who but a huge amiga or commodore fan would buy any of this crap, and most commodore and amiga fans see right through the smokescreen and know he's just slapping stickers on already existing stuff. So far they have yet to make a single product for sale themselves, but they sure are good and slapping their name on stuff, and acting like they did something.
 
For all their hype, so far I bet their sales figures would make being a homeless person and begging for change look like a better business idea.
 
Workbench 5? Yeah that will be an ubuntu respin with uae and an amiga wallpaper. They will spend upwards for 20 minutes putting that together.
Mark my words.
 
The c64 thing? I can build one myself from an c64 case, but why would I want to type on that ancient keyboard? This project has been done many times before, all over the internet by hobbyists, but never for sale.
 
Click on products, I get they ran out of stickers to slap on the cybernet zpc's they were selling for like 40% more than you could get them for direct from the real maker (cybernet). Wow their support for their products must be excellent, hype the hell out of your "new" computer,
sell it for 2 months then drop it, in favor of cases you bought wholesale and slapped old names on.
 
JOKE.
 
Steven

[haywirepc]

"Once he starts shipping product (which I'm sure he will), he'll finally silence a large portion of the naysayers."
 
Hey iggy, did you forget about the 2 or 3 other keyboard all in one computers which he was hyping for months and then never shipped?
 
What have they shipped so far? Some zpc's with commodore stickers slapped on them?

And what about the other few all in one keyboard comuters they used to have on their site? (All of them were existing products they planned to just put a commodore sticker on)

Any mention of those mysteriously dissapeared now. Use the wayback machine to see the old website, they have hyped many products so far that just dissapeared and never shipped.

With that kind of track record already, I doubt any of this new stuff they are trying to hype will ever arrive.
 
Steven

[haywirepc]

If you don't know what your talking about, don't post. When he first launched the website, he had two other all in one pc's one listed. One was "The amigo" one called "The phoenix" and another I don't recall.
"The amigo"  was a websurf all in one pc,  but hey for the extra 40-50% markup, they slap a commodore sticker on it for you...
 
and the other one, whose RENAME name I don't recall was this computer :
http://gizmodo.com/5163636/asus-eee-keyboard-pc-should-arrive-in-may-or-june-for-400+600
 
He had a fancy name for it, but yes, they were hyping this as a "Soon to be release NEW computer from commodore." So ask yourself again,why people are negative about them.
 
I suspect that as soon as people starting calling them out on their bullshit, they started backpedaling. This new website is just another attempt to hide their past lies.
 
Oh yeah, Why all the negativity? Here 's one reason :
 
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/commodore_usa_sell_amiga_all--one_pcs_hyperion_thinks_not
 
Want another reason? How about another forum member catching them red handed as having stolen most of their website word for word from apple.com (That shit was funny)
 
In the future, know who you are defending before you defend them.
Of course, the last forum troll who defended them so much got a job as their "Chief technical officer"
 
Iggy,What are you looking for a new job with a fancy title that pays nothing? This guy running this "company" and anyone who supports them should get a goddam life. Its a joke, its a goddam hoax. Anyone can slap a sticker on an existing product, copy apple's website word for word,or respin ubuntu, call it workbench and include an amiga emulator.
 
Take your head out of your ass. That is all.
 
Steven

[haywirepc]

Here is the cahed page from "The amigo" another NEW all in one keyboard pc... Only from commodore USA!
 
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?hl=en&q=cache:8ol7Sv80CTIJ:http://www.commodoreusa.net/amigo.html+commodore+usa+amigo&ct=clnk
 
Can you say "oh shit someone found out we're just slapping stickers on these things and they don't like it... Better forget that, quick change the website!
 
Does anyone remember the other NEW all in one keyboard pc's name? I'm sure its out there on the net still, even though they'd rather not let anyone see them...
 
Like I said iggy, if you don't know the history of the lies coming out of this place, then maybe you should not wonder why people are negative.
 
Hahaha jorkany, you found more I forgot about. The EEE all in one keyboard pc they called something else was on their website also... Wow nice case pictures of your new pc soon to be released... They dropped that kewl blue one from the new website too.
 
So whats the count? How many products have they promised or announced? Now how many have they delivered?
 
 
Steven

[haywirepc]

Iggy, come on man... Speculation or opinion...?
 
 
Facts :
 
CUSA copied a whole webpage's text word for word from apple's website.
 
CUSA announced 3 all in one pc's and only ever shipped one to my knowledge, to one verified customer, BIGBENAUSSIE who posted here in defense of them like crazy, and later somehow became their "chief technical officer"
 
All 3 promised "NEW" commodore all in one computers were just made by someone else, with commodore stickers just slapped on them, at least that was their plan.
 
Call their phone #, its a voicemail box.
 
CUSA show an old rendered amiga picture (used without permission of the original artist) and claim its their new "AMIGA" product.
 
CUSA show pictures of rendered computers that they stole off the internet and announce more new computers planned for 2011.
 
CUSA show pictures of cases they got from the internet and announce MORE new computers...
 
CUSA's owner trashed AROS like crazy, then makes announcements that his new amiga pc's will be fully aros compliant. (How it appears he changed his mind on that, since it costs money to get drivers made)
 
CUSA keep announcing new products but never deliver.
 
These are not opinions Iggy, these are facts, all verifiable facts.
There is no opinion here, these are facts, this is what they've done so far
so don't be surprised when people are negative to them and their big announcements.
 
Like many in the world of amiga vapourware that hype things like crazy, they just keep making announcement after annoucement, hyping new things forgetting that people still remember they never delivered the last things they were promising.

Now on to opinion:

At best, he'll make crappy pc's with ubuntu with an amiga theme and amiga emulator.
 
Steven

[haywirepc]

Unsupported facts? Everything I wrote can be verified by internet caches
and searches. BTW, I just called their phone # again... Yeah its still a voicemail box.
 
You know last time a user was so blindly posting such positive things about them on this forum, He became their "chief technical officer". (or was before he even started posting) I'm starting to wonder who you are, or really are. If your really truly genuine in your support I'm sorry, I just don't see how you can ignore the history there so far.
 
Iggy, come on man if you were an on the level fair guy, you would at least concede that it looks really shady for them so far. Ask any person knowledgable on this forum, my fact list is not unsupported opinion, its 100% the facts of what has happened so far.
 
I feel sorry for you if you really don't see that.

Steven

[haywirepc]

If you check their website under products...
 
Thats lets see thats 5 computers listed then 2 more in the future models section...
 
There was the "amigo" the websurf all in one keyboard computer that mysteriously disappeared from their new site, along with the other slap a sticker on it and call it a commodore model ( That one was really the eee all in one pc with built in lcd screen)
 
So thats lets see thats 9 computers announced and hyped up and announced as "coming soon" since April... (3 of which were just slap a sticker on it and call it a commodore)  So far? They have had available for purchase just the cybernet zpc with a commodore sticker slapped on it, that only one person that we know of has purchased. Interesting, that one guy who bought one? That guy got a new job out of it though... as their chief technical officer. (Your kidding me right?)
 
Commodore usa - 9 computers announced in 10 months (2 cancelled or dissapeared so far, with zero explanation as to why) I think what happened is they ran out of stickers early in their budget or something.
 
10 months of hype and all they did was slap a commodore sticker on one cybernet zpc, sell it to one person, then give him a job as their new chief technical officer.
 
So lets see how long it takes for the other 7 computers to dissapear from their website with no explanation or get cancelled as products.
 
Maybe they truly had or have good intentions, but their track record so far just sucks if you ask me. Having good ideas or plans dosn't mean anything if you can't deliver. Real companies don't start announcing new products before they have working prototypes.
 
Stop hyping and announcing NEW products, start delivering what you've already announced and hyped up.
 
Steven

[haywirepc]

Okay lets talk again when they actually have available for purchase all 7 of the computers on their current website, and the "NEW OS" available. Thats 8 new products they have to release. They better get busy, this could take years.
 
Steven

[haywirepc]

Most likely it will be ubuntu with an amiga theme and euae/vice.
Announcing a new AMIGA OS when your just doing that is part of my problem with them, much like slapping a sticker on an existing product and announcing your "NEW COMMODORE COMPUTERS".

A side note, I have enough linux experience to tell you that linux and amiga os are worlds apart. It may be fairly easy to get linux to look like amiga, but getting it to work anything like amiga os is entirely different.

Steven

[haywirepc]

I wouldn't be surprised if  they didn't even actually have these cases in their possession yet, just took pictures of the cases off the internet and started hyping new machines they haven't even made real prototypes for yet. I love their website making all these announcements...
 
Go to their forums, people are asking about specifics... No answers, through someone did all but say "workbench 5" will just be linux.
 
30 million dollars, thats their budget just for one aspect of their so called business? Yeah right, I guess they spend 10 million dollars developing commodore stickers to slap on zpc's too.
 
In other news, I'm creating my own commodore (and amiga) company and website... No really I am. I haven't decided what I'm going to sell yet, BUT it will all be branded commodore and commodore amiga. I personally challenge Barry Altman, CUSA, Amiga inc, Bill Mcsilly, Hyperion or anyone else to sue me to try and enforce any commodore or amiga trademarks or copyrights.
 
Steven

[haywirepc]

I forgot, I'll also have to compete with commodore scotland for google rankings. Those damn funny talking wierdo commodore nerds won't be getting as many clicks as me, I guarentee it!

[haywirepc]

I just registered an undisclosed web address from go daddy.
 
Now, I gotta go order some sticker making software and that sticker printer paper. After that, I will steal some case pictures from the internet
and start announcing new products before I've even built my first one.

Oh, and I gotta check out apple's website because I'm not going to take the time to actually design my own website, or write my own product descriptions, I'm just going to steal that stuff from apple's website.
(and copy and paste my own product names in)
 
Hey don't laugh, I copied my business plan from those titans of the technology sector, commodore usa. If that shit is working for them, then I'm cashing in on the commodore and amiga names too.
 
And yo, my snowman maker "legacy of success" phone app will be my flag ship software product. I'm going to make millions off this shit.
 
Steven

[haywirepc]

I read their latest press release...
 
"Multi-media advertising for the brand, appearing primarily on national television, will be breaking in time for the holiday season."
 
Suddently, I realized I never saw any commodore usa ads on national television. I happen to have a friend in advertising in nyc and called him and verified at least that korey kay is a real company in nyc...
 
So curious, I called there.
 
Brian Alter in "media" at Korey Kay and partners just told me they haven't even begun filming or editing anything for CUSA yet. He said there is no way anything will be breaking in time for "the holiday season"  
 
Brian Alter stated that 30 million dollars is their annual budget, not their total budget for their advertising campaign. I hope cusa pays them in advance. hahaha.
 
I can't wait to see 30 million dollars worth of commodore usa ads on national television, and by the holiday season. Maybe the following year their budget will be 50 million. YEAH!
 
Come on you supporters, this "company" said they were spending 30 million on ads, ads that would start airing on national television by the holiday season...?
 
Their own advertising people admitted they haven't even filmed anything yet... thats funny. (Maybe they are waiting for their 30 million dollar check before starting work?)
 
This shit is so funny. Come on CUSA, write some more press releases!
Announce some more products!
 
Steven

[haywirepc]

The Altman way :
 
1) Find a bunch of all in one keyboard computers and start a brilliant plan to slap a commodore sticker on them and charge 40% more than the actual supplier.
 
2) Steal apple's website text for describing computer models instead of writing your own descriptions for your computers. Cut the mac names out and paste your fake commodore names in.
 
3) Announce 9 computers as new models, only release one, a cybernet zpc with a commodore sticker slapped on it, that only one guy bought, then hire that one verifiable customer to become your new chief technical officer.
 
4) Steal artwork from amiga scene artists, aminet, or anywhere else you want to.
 
5) Take alot of rendered images from the internet and call them your "new computer design" without actual designing anything yourself.
 
6) Take pictures of cases off the internet and announce more more designs.
 
7) Threaten writers of osnews.com with lawsuits (in writing!) for pointing out the truth about your sham company.
 
Lie about a 30 million dollar national television advertising campaign.
 
 
I'm sure there's more but I'm tired of being the guy pointing all this stuff out. I have no axe to grind here, but the truth is the truth. I said it before, this is not opinion, this is all verifiable facts. Any company who has done all this stuff, they are not worthy of any trust at all. Their ethics were in the toilet the moment they at first
launched their first website with the about our products page stolen from apple.com
 
Steven