Legal issue of Kickstart ROMs

[haywirepc]

I think with Amiga Inc. and silly billy now dissapeared, its about time they get declared free. If anyone has a complete set of roms I would be happy to host them. If someone threatens to sue me, I'll let everyone know.
 
Legally...
I mean any legal protection for those has to be expired by now, since they are so old. They, along with the source code to all amiga os, especially os3.1+ should just be left to the remaining amiga community.
 
While I appreciate what cloanto and others do, its kind of ridiculous that someone is still trying to make money off of 15 and 20 year old rom images
or 15 and 20 year old operating systems.
 
Just my humble opinion....
 
Steven

[haywirepc]

Well cloanto may have some claim to the roms they provide with their package, due to changes they may have made. If anyone has a copy of roms they pulled from their actual amiga computers, I would be happy to host them for free download.
 
Just started a new job or I'd find some time to pull the rom files from my amiga 1200 with 3.1 rom, amiga 500 with 1.3 rom, and other amiga 500 with 2.1 rom. Surely someone must have already done this? if so pm me if you can provide copies for hosting.
 
Steven

[haywirepc]

I've bought a few 3.1 roms on ebay that were burnt not amiga nos.

[haywirepc]

"And so wrong on so many levels. Such matters should never be decided at the whim of a community let alone an individual. There are rules and mechanisms to protect the intelectual and legal rights of those that are gifted and minded enough to share their produce. "
 
Whats wrong is people who have no legal right to control these roms still doing so. How long can you rape the corpse of a dead company before you give what should belong to the community back to the community?
 
I publicly challenge anyone who claims to have the sole rights to distribute images of these roms to sue me after I post them on a public website for anyone to download.
 
The patents, trademarks, (C)opyrights and IP rights have LONG expired, but those still trying to rape that corpse don't want anyone to know that. This is so they can continue making a few bucks off the amiga corpse.
 
These rom images SHOULD be posted for free download. Anyone is free to try and sue me for doing so, but I don't see that happening. Could get very expensive proving you have the rights to things made 10, 15 and 20 years ago, when amiga the company and its ip has changed hands 9 times along with IP, trademarks and copy rights.

[haywirepc]

"Why? Someone has legal rights to them. How about you give me your car for free, I think you should. You didn't invent or create it, it's certainly not yours. "
 
Who has the rights? Who has PROVEN they have the rights legally? No one. No one has ever proven they have the exclusive right to sell or distribute the kickstart rom, a copy of which can be obtained quite legally from MY amiga that I bought so many years ago. Its my rom, I own it, and If I want to give away images of it, you can't sue me for that.
 
The writers of the roms are gone, and no longer claim rights. The original owners of amiga are gone and no longer claim rights, the owners after that and after that and after that are also gone and no longer claim rights. Show me the legal documents or shut up. PROVE IT, or shut up.
 
Show me the legal documents and trail from original amiga to the current claimed holders of the "exclusive" rights to copy or distribute these rom chips or images... No one has ever done that.
 
I can say I own the rights to atari 2600 roms but I can't go suing people or claiming piracy or exclusive rights to sell roms or prevent those who post roms on their websites unless I prove ownership.
 
Thats all I'm saying, show us the proof... No one ever has, and I suspect its because no one can.
 
Steven

[haywirepc]

"
 
"Why? Someone has legal rights to them. How about you give me your car for free, I think you should. You didn't invent or create it, it's certainly not yours. "
 
Oh I forgot to mention... I have a legal document to prove I bought my car.
I can show anyone proof I own my car. No one has proven they own the roms.
No one. Show us the documents. That should settle this whole argument, and if you really did own the roms or rights to the roms, I would think you would certainly want to show that "title" to prevent any misunderstandings.
 
Steven

[haywirepc]

Nice Pinto joke. Its interesting that since you disagree with my opinion you have to insult me. When i get some extra time, I plan to launch a new website which will host amiga kick roms, amiga os files and amiga abandonware. I'm very busy so this may take a few weeks even to get started, but I will make it happen.
 
If anyone has kickstart images or other files you feel would be good for this type of project, feel free to pm me.
 
Steven