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Re: So what is XMOS good for?
« on: February 22, 2010, 04:27:01 AM »
Its definitely good for looking busy, and it gives you the ability to say your computer uses "custom chips" when all your doing is taking an off the shelf microcontroller and adding it to your substandard, slow, overpriced,outdated before its even sold power pc motherboard.
 
Its the basic equivelant of attaching a basic stamp microcontroller to a pc motherboard with velcro, and then calling it a "revolutionary new computer".
 
I have no idea what these people are thinking. Port OS4 to x86 (or arm at least) or die. I'm beginning to think that amiga curse people talk about is true. Newsflash POWER PC is dead. You can add all the off the shelf components you want to it, but its still dead, dead dead at its core...
 
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Re: So what is XMOS good for?
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2010, 08:32:12 AM »
Yes my post sounds negative, but its the truth. Anyone can go read what this "custom chip" does and also, anyone can buy it off the shelf.
 
Personally, I think its a bold faced lie to make announcements saying your making a new computer that uses custom chips, when your just using an off the shelf component anyone can buy.
 
Of course it will be underpowered, power pc is dead, dead chips don't get
any faster, its not an assumption, its just reality.
 
Of course it will be too expensive, look at what they sell now, an 800$ 733mhz computer motherboard. Do you think they will charge less for
a higher powered motherboard? after all, it will include custom chips :)
 
I wish the best for them but this computer was dead before it was ever even sold. Can you say FLOP?
 
Help us morph os and Aros people, you are our only hope...
 
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Re: So what is XMOS good for?
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2010, 05:49:46 PM »
Tripitaka
 
Okay, except for embedded devices and video game consoles... which use 2+year old slower chips...Power pc is dead dead dead.
 
From wikipedia :
 
"In 2004, Motorola exited the chip manufacturing business by spinning off its semiconductor business as an independent company called Freescale Semiconductor. Around the same time, IBM exited the embedded processor market by selling its line of PowerPC products to Applied Micro Circuits Corporation (AMCC) "
 
What do you think about the future of power pc without the millions and millions of R+D by IBM and Motorola GONE? Intel/AMD wins hands down and thats that my friend. Freescale and applied micro circuits corporation don't have 5% of the budget of motorola or ibm.
 
They can not and will never again compete with intel/amd, no way.
 
I for one, can't understand anyone gambling the future of their company
on a dying processor. Its dead or dying. It will NEVER be the competitor it once was, NEVER. You can be ignorant of this and put your blinders on
but that fact will NEVER change.
 
I for one would buy AOS in a hearbeat if it ran on x86 and so would so many others, yet they still ignorantly think thats not a good idea.
 
Also, I love "Our most ambitious project to date" If the most ambition they can muster is attaching an off the shelf microcontroller to a substandard overpriced power pc motherboard... I don't know thats kind of sad really.
 
Somehow I hoped for more ambition than that...
 
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Re: So what is XMOS good for?
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2010, 07:06:52 PM »
I guess the blinders are really firmly placed on. I understand powerpc continues on in small markets, but it will never be a major part of
the desktop market ever again. NEVER.
 
For the record, I have no agenda, and I have and run AROS already. It would be fine with me if AOS continues to beat the dead powerpc horse.
 
I think it will be better for everyone is the future of amiga was open source, and that can never die or be controlled by people with blinders on, who refuse to accept the simple facts of the industry they are in, the same industry they are trying (and failing miserably) to make money in.
 
And finally, in answer to the original posters question "What is xmos good for?" - Nothing you can not do better on the host processor, or through a printer, serial or usb port on any 10 year old computer.
 
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Re: So what is XMOS good for?
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2010, 08:06:47 PM »
Yes and it never will be when they stick to hardware no one has or can
afford to buy just to try it out.

I wish them the best but I don't understand what they are doing. I hope this computer comes out and is very useful and affordable, but I just don't see it happening. I can hope, and when all else fails, enter AROS.