New old user vox

[Piru]

Average salary is 338 euros, paypal doesnt work and I&I live outside EU (but yet in Europe) so add VAT, heavy import tax and process and P&P.

Yet it was no problem to get the expensive Sam board? You can get MorphOS compatible Mac + license with 1/4 of the Sam price.

[Piru]

- Unexpandibility or difficulty to find proper components in 2011 and beyond

http://www.ifixit.com/Mac-Parts/Mac-mini-PowerPC

DDR memory and IDE devices are easily available from larger stores, too.

For example locally for me:
1GB ram upgrade would be 26 €: http://hintaseuranta.fi/tuote.aspx/15391
320GB PATA HDD would be 63 €: http://hintaseuranta.fi/tuote.aspx/236371

- Limited software support from all and hardware repair unavailiablity

Repairs are easily available from apple service providers. It certainly is much better situation than with any custom amiga HW which you need to ship out to another country or worse to another continent.

[Piru]

SATA is there

Onboard SATA isn't supported yet.

RadeonHD 3D

RadeonHD 3D isn't there yet.

If you give plus 200 eur for monitor, you could have machine that would by everything but P3 1Ghz CPU be near any decent PC of today.

If you're saying what I think you're saying you've gotta be kidding me.

[Piru]

Making questions about someone else's budget

vox brought the topic up, not me.

[Piru]

exponation why availiable PPC board is not viable target for MOS.

This has been covered in numerous other threads before, but since you asked:

- The Sam 460 board is very expensive vs the performance it gives. Even basic Mac Mini G4 runs circles around it. There are better (cheaper & faster HW, better spare parts, repair&support situation) targets for the port, for instance PowerBook G4, PowerMac G5 and iMac G5.

- Considering the tiny HW base it would lead to little gains in number of new MorphOS users. While some Sam users are interested in running MorphOS, most are not (this has been backed up by various polls, too).

- The Sam HW is very different from the currently supported HW. Various Mac models are very similar to each other and thus making ports to them is much easier than going for some totally alien and new HW.

There are more reasons but these are the most obvious ones.

[Piru]

you have attacked me

I can't fathom how I could possibly have attacked you in any way. Regardless I apologize for any injury I might have caused.

[Piru]

@piru

A bit off-topic, but im in the need of a bigger hd for my mini andthought that the mini uses ide interface. Is possible to connect pata drives directly or with some type of adapter?. Also, is performance lowered with it?
Thanks in advance!!!

The HDD in Mac Mini is normal 2.5" PATA drive. The drive is quite easy to replace. See here: http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Repair/Installing-Mac-mini-PowerPC-Hard-Drive/268/1

If you just want extra HDD storage easily you can use a SATA HDD with a HDD enclosure via USB.

There's also beta version of the Helios Firewire stack available so if the HDD enclosure has a firewire port it might give better performance than USB.