Installed MorphOS on my eMac, Now What?

[Piru]

Now my first question, is do I just hold down power to shut down, or is there something I should click on first?

I noticed that my installation looks like a default 3.1 install with no start bar or any of that junk added, so I just want to make sure that I'm shutting down correctly to start with.

The recommended way is to choose "Shut Down..." from the Ambient menu.

Secondly, how do I add an ICON bar or something to that effect for easy access to my apps.

The one in this pic will do, unless someone can advice a better option, I.E. if there is something like ToolsDaemon.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/104/299623915_0b69f3023e_o.png

Ambient menu: Objects / Panels / New...
Then click right mouse button on top of the panel and choose "Add to panel...". You can then drag'n'drop panelitems into the panel (you probably want to add buttons, and maybe spacers). Once you have desired number of buttons you can drag'n'drop the application icons into the buttons.

There are various properties for the panel you can edit by choosing right mouse button over the panel and selecting "Properties...". Once you're happy with your panel you can choose to change it to "Locked" state so that you don't modify the panel by accident. You can have multiple panels if you wish.

Check jPV's MorphOS 2 review for some cool Ambient stuff.

For software:

http://morphos-files.net/ and http://morphos.lukysoft.cz/en/ contain nice archives of various software to install. You can also check http://mos.aminet.net/

If you're into application development you should install the MorphOS SDK available from the MorphOS downloads.

[Piru]

Install this ->  http://www.encore-games.com/fortis_morphos.html

Just a quick note: Fortis requires powersdl v14 installed: http://aminet.net/package/util/libs/powersdl

[Piru]

In regards to the 2Gb or RAM, will MorphOS support that?

Out of that 2GB maximum 1.5GB will be available for MorphOS.

[Piru]

Where is the web page for Fab's UAE? I'm looking to set up WHDLoad on this system...

...assuming that is possible.

Fab's E-UAE is here:
http://morphos-files.net/find.php?find=e-uae

Download and unarchive, then look into E-UAE_0.8.29-WIP4/Bonus/readme.morphos for how to configure it to play ball with Ambient.

Here's a post about troubleshooting the installation:
http://www.morphzone.org/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=6888&forum=9

[Piru]

Thank you, I did as much. Copied the files to where the docs told me to put them, then edited them to match my set up (directories and such).

Could not edit Startup_Sequence because there was none (?), so I made the changes to user start up.

Copied my roms to the roms folder, and now after a reboot, when I double click an ADF file, nothing happens.

Does it work directly from CLI?
Say: uae -f Conf/A1200.conf -0 an_A1200_game.adf

[Piru]

And it says:

No file name given for ROM key file and ROM image is an encrypted "Amiga Forever" rom file.

And I've no idea what it's trying to tell me. Of course my ROM file is an Amiga Forever ROM file. Does it want me to rip the real deal off my Amiga 1200 or something?

Two possibilities: Either copy the Amiga Forever ROM keyfile to the Roms/rom.key file and add kickstart_key_file=PROGDIR:Roms/rom.key to all configuration files, or start Amiga Forever with both KS 3.1 (kick.rom) and KS 1.3 (kick13.rom) and save the KS ROM from within the emulation and transfer these files to corresponding locations in Roms directory.

[Piru]

EDIT: I "think" I got it now. My ADF files are resorting to the Red Screen of death, but I'm getting there.

Will tinker more tonight after work.

Red means bad ROM checksum.

Oh, the third option is to google some magic keyword. ;-)

[Piru]

@ Piru and TakemeHomeGrandma: What's up with the elusive references? And what is it that you are referring to anyhow?

Well, I just didn't want to give too good instructions on how to google the KS ROM images. ;-)

Obviously since you have the Amiga Forever package anyway there would be no problem if you'd google them.

[Piru]

Now my questions is, how do I get your script to default to the 500config? I tried putting it above the 1200 one, but now the 1200 option is merely lower in the list, but is still default.

"Event DoubleClick" is the one that gets run when you doubleclick the icon. So the easiest solution is to edit the x-adf file and swap "Event DoubleClick"" and "Event Menu" strings.

[Piru]

So how far can I push all this emulation business anyhow? I've heard I could even install Dopus Magellan II in MorphOS, is that true?!

Yeah it is.
Personally I've never used it but I know several users who do/did.

Here's some old document about it from the MorphOS 1.4 era: http://jpv.wmhost.com/magellan2ambient/magellan2ambient-faq.html

As I have never used it myself I can't tell how relevant it is today.

[Piru]

Of course now I am forbidden to install it so I guess I've no choice in the matter. That's one thing I am NOT enjoying about my MorphOS experience thus far.

Can't continue to install some programs if previously failed during an install.

This could be due to numerous reasons. For instance it could be that the installer script isn't prepared to handle a case with previous interrupted installation. Some things might even have a installer script that doesn't just work, in which case you might need to perform manual installation.

Some PPC games just will not work as they should, or will not install at all, what so ever which seems to be the case with WipeOUT 2097.

Not everything will work, but with some manual work many of them do. For instance WipeOUT 2097 does work. http://www.morphzone.org/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=10&topic_id=6596

MorphOS seems the way to go, so maybe the problems I've having are on the user's end, though I've a feeling this is not the case for every instance, I mean things should just work right?

It's just impossible for the MorphOS to handle everything automagically. Some things do require manual tweaking before they'll work.

[Piru]

Quake II

http://morphos-files.net/find.php?find=quake

You should only need to copy the baseq2 directory (the game data files) to the same location as the quake2 binary.

[Piru]

When I launch it, after copying the baseq2 folder, I get the following error:

Error: Couldn't fall back to software refresh!!

Hmm I just tried installing this quake2 on a vanilla MorphOS 2.5 installation (mac mini) and it worked. The only problem I had was the initial screenmode didn't work with the monitor I had. I worked around this by quitting the quake2 (hit esc for menu, hit up arrow, hit enter, hit y) and editing baseq2/config.cfg file to disable fullscreen mode:

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set vid_fullscreen "0"Restarting (and now in window mode) I was able to configure everything to my specification. Then finally I changed quake2 to use minigl hardware rendering and screen resolution of 1280x1024.

[Piru]

So how does MorphOS manage to run these classic programs as if native like this without the use of UAE? This just blows my mind!

While MorphOS is fully PowerPC native it implements all the programming interfaces that are used in the classic AmigaOS applications, including PowerUP and WarpUP, Warp3D. MorphOS also includes a 68k CPU emulation (both slower but accurate static emulation and highly efficient Just-In-Time translation that translates most 68k code to native PowerPC instructions on the fly) that makes it possible to execute the amiga 68k applications. This all makes it possible to run old amiga applications as if they were native MorphOS applications.

Needless to say it took years and years to all this working properly, and there still are some things that don't quite work 100% yet. :-)

There also are limitations: Since these new machines don't have the amiga custom chipset, any application banging the HW directly needs to be run inside UAE. This mostly means floppy games and demos.

Is this the sort of features we could hope to get from AROS some day as well?

AROS needs to take a slightly different approach to this emulation, but in theory AROS could have the same features. Here's a project that I believe has most promise:
http://emumiga.com/

Needless to say it'd be ton and ton of work to implement everything.

[Piru]

Very noble project!
So in essence, if this project reaches it's goals, it will more or less alow AROS to have the sort of Classic Amiga compatability that MorphOS enjoys, but without the Kickstart roms?

Correct.

Just to clarify: MorphOS doesn't need KS ROMs either, unless if you want to install UAE of course.

As for Quake II, I'll try a couple other sources, and see what I come up with. I can't even boot the game as of yet.

hmm just to be sure, this is what your quake2 dir should look like:

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Work:Games/Quake2> list all
baseq2                             Dir ----rwed Tänään    09:53:48
ref_tinygl.so                   236692 ----rwed 20-Hei-04 22:11:10
ref_soft.so                     235008 ----rwed 20-Hei-04 22:04:04
quake2.info                       7313 ----rwed 25-Syy-04 22:59:04
gameppc.so                      677152 ----rwed 20-Hei-04 22:04:58
quake2                          593624 ----rwed 20-Hei-04 22:04:58
5 files - 1 directory - 1749789 bytes used

Directory "baseq2" on Torstai 24-Kes-10
pak1.pak                       12992754 ----rwed 12-Hel-98 23:01:46
pak0.pak                       183997730 ----rwed 30-Mar-97 06:59:58
2 files - 196990484 bytes usedPS. Some stuff will be added (config files, savefiles) when you run the game for the first time.