@Bernd_afa: OWB (68k) optimizations

[Piru]

If you want to access the web from your Amiga and you have another PC on the network (Mac, Linux, Windows etc.) there are tools that will let a networked Amiga open a web-browser on those machines and display it on the Amiga screen.

With the Amiga hard drives mounted via SAMBA on the host machine (so you can save directly to the Amiga) it looks and feels almost like a native browser only much faster and upto date.

Just google for Amiga & VNC or Remote Desktop.

I have a HP NAS drive (EX470) running Windows Server 2003 which is always on and I click on an icon on the Amiga and a remote FireFox 3.5.6 window opens. Because it is remote everything just works like it would on a PC, Flash, Shockwave, Java etc.

That's too slow for my taste.

[Piru]

If OWB is faster, then wy netsurf is a google summer of Code projecrt since 2 years and there is no OWB Version in a Linux distri ?.the big disadvantage of netsurf is currently missung java script but its in Linux Distri.

netsurf is in Linux distri.Wy not OWB ?

Why would it be any indication of anything whether something is in specific linux distribution or not?

That's just plain silly.

maybe the time of render of a complete page is slower or same as OWB, but thats not the important.The important is to get the page as fast as possible vissible and can scroll and click on links.

That's your opinion. I don't agree. Personally I like to have working javascript. I like to have snappy scrolling, too.

netsurf have some settings for number of fetchers and the time it refresh.Here users can tweak in config file and get better results on

Such things should be automatic. The end user should not be forced to bother with such things.

I have too some time ago compile OWB on my AMD64 3000+
I have compile it 70% sucessfull, but most demotivation was that every time when i type make, the build system check for about over 1 minute to find out on what files it should continue to compile and then it give me a compile error when something is wrong.my ram was enough.

and for that i have not the patience.

Seriously? You really need to find something else to do than program then.

In this time a netsurf rebuild work and when i change some files in netsurf, a new version can get in 5 sec and a compile error in this file can see in 2 sec.
maybe that slowdown is cygwin relatet ?
when you change a file in OWB on your Linux System, how many seconds it need to detect what file need compile.

How on earth would this matter at all? The build is automatic anyway, why would you need to know which files need to be compiled? I just don't get what your problem here is.

[Piru]

thats show its intresting for users to use.

Huh? So you seriously think just because there's software X in linux distros it somehow measures popularity of that said software?

The fact that OWB is not available in enhanced way for other than MOS OS4 /AROS and is also not listet on wikipedia, do not motivate me for OWB.

But you do know better than that. Instead you just play stupid.

The only running OWB i can see is on AROS.and here it is 2-3* slower to show the page as soon as possible.

OWB is faster than Netsurf here. The reasons for AROS OWB slowness were explained already.

I dont want spend much work for a better than nothing solution, i want the best solution, so that when i surf on winuae its same fast as on firefox native.and that is possible with netsurf.and when they add the filecache, then it go faster.

Best solution for your tastes perhaps, but IMO any browser without javascript is totally useless.

sure java script is miss, and OWB is for MOS OS4 AROS users great, because better wait 5 sec instead of cant show page.but when i see that the page is show on 2 sec(the page layout is done and can scroll) on my windows box with all browsers, i think its not usefull to spend lots work in OWB before the speed get same as other browsers.

I don't know what you're talking about. At least MorphOS OWB is instant here.

I like too have Java script and problem of later show on OWB have nothing to do with Java script.I deactivate it for test in AROS OWB, but get not faster.

This argument is null and void. Netsurf still lacks javascript.

And I still don't see any performance problems in OWB compared to Netsurf. You must've been benchmarking wrong things again.

[Piru]

can you tell me page times, and links where OWB is faster ?

OWB is faster everywhere. And, yes, you can scroll down instantly.

Your benchmark methods are flawed I guess. You really ought to rule out internet connectivity issues from your tests. Free hint: Use local copies of web pages you test.

[Piru]

@bernd_afa

You sound like a broken record.

[Piru]

@utri007

if you have a problem with something I said, please specify what it was.

otherwise stfu. and keep our relatives out of it.

[Piru]

@Fab:

You have a Linux cross-compile environment ready to go.
YOU might try your hand at it

You forget that the target for that cross compiler is MorphOS PPC.

[Piru]

And i have hope in 1-2 years when the MOS/OS4 developers maybe see there cant make enough money with the OS they stop the lots work spend on browser.

As "making money" isn't the goal I'm afraid we can't grant that wish.