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Re: Rougue er all
« on: July 23, 2009, 08:17:08 PM »
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ALL Pegasos were having hardware problems.
They were? I must have a bad memory.
 

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Re: Rougue er all
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2009, 06:05:54 AM »
Quote from: Karlos;516667
IIRC, the first Peg 1 models that didn't have the April (I think that's what it was called) fix had the same issues as their A1 counterparts, right?
1. Even the pre-april pegasos1 never had the same range of issues the original AmigaONE SE had.
2. Pre-april Pegasos 1 hardly accounts for all Pegasos hardware.
3. The problematic hw were swapped to april fixed ones by the manufacturer.
4. AmigaONE SE hardware issues were never fixed.

AmigaONE SE was claimed to be perfectly working HW, "they're just software issues" and warranty replacement never happened. Yet none of the Articia chips never worked as advertised. Pegasos II was built around different northbridge and never had a single issue. More AmigaONE hardware was built around new revision of the Articia chipset, which was again claimed to be "bug free". But it wasn't. Mai Logic went bust which finally put end to the Articia misery.

So yes, AmigaONE was a spectacular failure, and unfortunately end users had to pay the price.

While Pegasos 1 indeed shares some of the trouble due to using the Mai Logic northbridge, the manufacturer at least worked around the issue and replaced the boards.

So I disagree with the statement that all Pegasos were having hardware problems.
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Re: Rougue er all
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2009, 02:55:47 PM »
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AFAIK, the last few Pegasos1's had the A660BNGE revision (the "fixed" revision) of the Articia S,

Could be, but I bet that was only because those were the only chips available. To my knowledge it was very hard to get any chips from Mai Logic. In fact, on occasion external third party had to step in before the already paid chips were delivered.
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and a handful of them was even sold in a G4 bundle, but indeed there were still issues.

I've heard of only one somewhat working Pegasos1 with a G4 (I actually demoed it at assembly 2003):
http://saku.amigafin.org/yhdistys/tapahtumat/assembly03/kuvat/113-1344_IMG.JPG
http://saku.amigafin.org/yhdistys/tapahtumat/assembly03/kuvat/Assembly03_Pegasos_G4_Specs.jpg
 

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Re: Rougue er all
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2009, 03:42:12 PM »
Quote from: Plaz;516807
Normally I'm using Opera or Firefox on the PC. This morning I'm being lazy, and see what it gets me?  :)  Not 100% sure it was amigann or not, but I visited the page, the browser locked up, I killed all my open browers, relaunched IE and got virus scanner warnings immediately after.
The website is infected with pharming attacks: As soon as you browse the site the malicious code will attempt to take over your system by using multitudes of different methods, including infected swf and pdf documents abusing vulnerabilities in Flash player and Adobe Acrobat.

The malicious files are hosted in chinese (.cn) domains.

It is quite likely that amigann is innocent victim here aswell, and the site has been hacked. I'll investigate further soon. Meanwhile, I am urging caution when browsing the site. Even better, avoid the site altogether.

update1:

As far as I can tell the malware comes from malicious google ads. Suspicious URLs look like:
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http://****mail.org/licky/etChunksFrom.swf
http://****anag.cn/rf/fromFactLooks.swf
http://****ci.cn/redirect/include/spl.php?stat=Linux|Mozilla%205.0|FI|Mozilla
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Re: Rougue er all
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2009, 04:12:42 PM »
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Swiss domains, actually. :)

(I've been confused by this as well)

no, chinese. I just typoed there.
 

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Re: Rougue er all
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2009, 04:39:09 PM »
Quote from: DiskDoctor;516816
How in the hell could Google, Inc. help in delivering malicious content to the users?
Google isn't, directly.

The ads are such that they have either time or IP address (or something else) triggering the extra content. At the time of the ad purchase or when google looks at it, it appears perfectly legit. Only after the trigger fires the malware is activated. I've seen this trick being used quite a lot lately. Many high profile sites have been hit.

There's very little google can do to fight against such attacks.
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Maybe it is high time someone did then?
I don't know what that would accomplish really.

Users can fight against these attacks by making sure that their antivirus, operating system and applications are always kept up to date. Windows users should install Secunia Personal Software Inspector.
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Re: Rougue er all
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2009, 04:47:44 PM »
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Someone's legal responsitivity for someone else's loss.

You know my type.  Help in malware distribution is a crime I guess, both here, in US, name it.

So, I guess this means that if someone hacks your computer and uses it to distribute malware, you should be held accountable for all damages? ;)

IMHO google is equally a victim here.