Netsurf for 68k amigas, css capable web brower

[Piru]

http://aminet.net/package/dev/c/netsurf-morphos-src

It might be easier to compile this for 3.x.

[Piru]

No ;-)

[Piru]

>i am not sure if there are hangs and internet access take unecessary delay.

One of the basic rules of benchmarking anything is to remove the uncertainty or your results will be totally useless. Everyone and their cousin knows this...

Doing any kind of guestimates which can be affected by the state of the internet connection is silly.

Solution: Remove the internet connection from the equation, use a locally cached copy of the page you want to benchmark. Only then you will be able to draw any kind of conclusions.

After that, the very first move is to get rid of ixemul usage. It just will not work reliably with AmigaOS code.

[Piru]

@fab

with libnix netsurf crashes immidiate test with the MOS source in that func in gui_init.

Have you actually figured out why it crashes? Surely developer of your skill is able to do this?

[Piru]

it count not the exact time, because in real world internet load time can differ around 1-2 sec on fast server(as the netsurf and other sites i name are.)

I guess you missed this before so I shall repeat it:

Solution: Remove the internet connection from the equation, use a locally cached copy of the page you want to benchmark. Only then you will be able to draw any kind of conclusions.

Have you actually figured out why it crashes? Surely developer of your skill is able to do this?

i have no time and fun to do so

Yet you have time to give bad advice and talk smack? How nice of you. You know it would be much more constructive to actually locate the bug and fix/workaround it rather than talk bull manure about ixemul and libnix.

When i port a Unix program i choose always the best solution.and this is not use libnix and add the missing functions, this is use a bsd kernel on amiga os, (ixemul)

Netsurf isn't a unix program anymore, at least if you want to have any kind of usable GUI with it (SDL one doesn't quite count as usable). ixemul is only usable for things that you don't actually port: for recompiles (configure && make). As soon as you start actually porting you get rid of ixemul as the first step.

After that, the very first move is to get rid of ixemul usage. It just will not work reliably with AmigaOS code.

and wy not ?

I've explained this before: AmigaOS code doesn't mix with ixemul. Regardless what you've supposedly done to "fix" this in your V600 ixemul versions does not really fix this fundamental design choice.

you cant compare MOS ixemul with 68k ixemul.

Yes I can. I've actually developed ixemul for years. I know the internals better than most. I can say for a fact that ixemul and AmigaOS code do not mix. Nothing I've seen from you has changed this fact, either.

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[Piru]

the amiga os build from MOS source do not work with many programs on 68k.

Now there's you problem: It was never intended to. You asked for the MorphOS ixemul source. This is what you got.

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the MOS extension libnix source is not release

libnix is not released because it isn't open source.

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eveybody can check with a fast windows PC and a fast windows browser(safari firefox) how fast it can be on his internet connect.and when he use amiga software and do the same test 5-10 times again then he get a average value and can say around 50% accurate how fast amiga browsers in compare to firefox etc are.

No they really don't. First of all the browsers run on a different system (different CPU, operating system, HDD and memory speed). Second the performance of the internet connection varies from time to time. Third the load of the remote web server varies from time to time. Regardless how many times you repeat the test you will not get any kind of comparable results that could be used to compare the browsers.

You can get better results by removing as much variables as you can. The obvious solution is to load the same web page from the local RAM disk. Even if you do this, you still won't be able to do any kind of comparison between different platforms (but you CAN compare the browser to another inside amigaos for example). To fix this you need to build Netsuft for the same system where the other browsers are tested (windows in this case).

I would have thought this is kind of obvious, but I you never know it seems.

[Piru]

libnix is not released because it isn't open source.

how many % have MOS enhance in this libnix source ?

Impossible to say. In overall it has been tweaked a LOT.

MOS use too much AROS source

Pardon? There's some kind of limit to as how much AROS source code you may use? The AROS source usage in MorphOS is limited to parts of dos, intuition, gadtools, diskfont, locale, commodities and some c commands. You can download the MorphOS 2.x ISO and check the documentation for the full list.

is since MOS2.x release some code give back to AROS ?

The license is obeyed, yes. MorphOS devs have been contributing back to AROS since 2001.

here is libnix licence.

"""""
This package is public domain.
""""

That is not the MorphOS libnix license. MorphOS libnix is not public domain. Some parts of the MorphOS libnix are based on the public domain work, however.

PS. Certain individual distributed MorphOS libnix sources with the wrong license at some point. This distribution was never authorized by the copyright holders.

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Yes of course but when the MOS source contain so many ifdefs morphos and 68k asm code, so it seem it should run on amiga OS.

Assumption is the mother of all f***ups.

Have you really do much work?

Yes. I have. Now give it a rest already.