What are the advantages of the present/future Amiga?

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Reality check



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@amigaksi

a new "Mac" is NOT a Mac because of Intel chips

Why not?

I have both PPC and Intel Macs. There is no difference between them, except that the Intel Mac is much faster.

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@quarkx

I think the point is the "Spirit or Soul" of a MAC is that of a different architecture. The modern Intel MAC is exactly the same as running AUE or Amiga forever on a modern Intel box, although the MAC is not Emulated anymore but the OS is designed to run on an x86, the spirit of a MAC will always run on a Moto or PPC. Infact the "OS 9" and legacy mode for OS 10 (as I understand it) is an Emulation of the PPC.
It is the same debate on why cant we have Amgia OS 5 run solely on an x86 platform, because (in my mind) that would go against everything unique about the Amiga.
Too me it would be like all cars running the same frame and chassis. motor etc. The only difference would be the outer body and interior of the car. This is used by each of the car manufactures, but what happens if they ALL used the same one, whether it was Ford, GM or what ever? That is what is happening in the computer industry today, there is no Soul left, no real pride left in owning a brand name, they are just recycling the same stuff over and over and putting a different paint job on it.
Of course the MAC fanboys will argue this point saying that Apple is truly different, but at the end of the day, no matter what box it is in, it is still the same internals as the next company.

The thing is that with computers software is everything. Who cares about the actual HW underneath as long as it's fast enough and bugfree?

BTW, car analogies suck.

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@amigaksi

And how did you draw such a conclusion that they are both Macs. The Mac was originally a 680x0 and although overburdened (unlike amiga) had some support hardware like for audio/keyboard/mouse etc. so unless you have a system that is a subset of that hardware configuration you can bet there exists a program that will work on original Mac not on your so-called Mac.

I didn't own any of the m68k Macs, but I've used them. Considering some evolution, these PPC and x86 Macs look and feel the same. They run much of the same software (although now much more advanced). Frankly, I don't give a poop whether the underlying HW is m68k, PPC or x86. All of them work. x86 works faster than PPC. PPC works faster than m68k.

This is how I feel. I consider them Macs. Obviously you don't need to agree.

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@Georg

if MorphOS development had started today (not x years ago) - or maybe put differently: if cpu situation when MorphOS development started back then would have been as it is now - which CPU family would in your opinion have been the best choice?

Assuming that there would be no backwards compatibility issues to consider, clearly x86 (or x86-64 probably).

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@downix

I'm still leaning more for keeping the software as 68k and emu it, a la Amithlon, thereby eliminating the whole native issue. *shrug*

Sure go ahead. I was asked my opinion and I gave it.

If the only goal is to run the old m68k apps in some boxed emulation and have the surrounding OS somehow new, then it will be quite hard to compete with Windows + WinUAE or Linux x86 + EUAE.

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@Georg

In recent times (months?) I think to have noted "indications" that several other people from MorphOS team might have similiar opinion. Might that be so?

I don't speak in behalf of other people. This is my personal opinion.

Anyway, this particular opinion was given about hypothetical scenario. It is in no way related to MorphOS as of today.