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Re: Adf to real amiga disk
« on: March 23, 2003, 02:05:26 PM »
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you would then need some wizardry to write down every block to the FD exactly as they are laid on the AmigaFS track layout using "dd".

No, this doesn't work with PC floppy controller. It's a HW issue.
 

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Re: Adf to real amiga disk
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2003, 02:19:05 PM »
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but can't i make my own workbench 1.2 disk (or is workbenc 1.2 useless for making an amiga disk of an adf file?) when i connect a commodore parallel floppy disk to my pc?

I'm not sure. Is this a amiga or c-64 thingie?
If it's amiga, it might be possible, assuming it can write disks...

The easy solution is either obtaining special hardware that can write amiga disks *OR* get someone to send you a amiga disk that has the needed tools for transferring files between your amiga and pc.

There is no need to buy Kickstart 3.1. Kickstart 1.2 is enough. In fact Kickstart 3.1 will break some old games, so it's not recommended for plain game machine.

You just need to get the transfer-disk on a amiga formatted floppy. I've written a program that can be used to transfer amiga disk images on 720K PC formatted floppies (image is split to half, 440K per disk, needless to say you need to do some serious disk swapping, esp if you don't have 2nd floppy disk drive). It requires either 1MB chip or 512K chip + 512K fast.

The problem is that you need this image on a amiga floppy, and you can't write it yourself. So you need some volunteer to do that on a real amiga and have the disk posted to you via snailmail.

If you find the volunteer, I can provide the disk image. Just drop me a mail (sintonen@iki.fi) and I'll send the disk image to the volunteer.
 

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Re: Adf to real amiga disk
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2003, 03:20:05 PM »
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Grrr, just what gives that we can't overcome this HWare thing ?

The PC floppy controller can't write continous track. Amiga floppy has full tracks and only gaps between them. PC floppy controller writes gaps to each track (9 normally).

See the (simplefied) picture below for rough idea:

(NOTE: PC left, Amiga right. The amiga tracks don't start & end at the same position like in the picture, this is just for representation reasons).
 

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Re: Adf to real amiga disk
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2003, 06:32:30 PM »
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I found out the other amiga has kickstart 2.0 :) Maybe that would make things easier?

It does if you find Workbench 2.1 disks. Workbench 2.1 come with CrossDOS that allows you to read/write PC 720K disks.

Note: IIRC Workbench 2.0 doesn't have CrossDOS.