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Offline psxphill

Quote from: wbrejnia;822190
C) PC Boots C: drive from that VIRTUAL DRIVE
d) But after command.com load (D: drive is used for everything else)

The manual says that autoboot from a virtual drive is disabled if you have a real harddrive in the bridge board.

Why can't you boot the PC from the PC hard drive?

I'm not sure using the PC hard drive as an Amiga partition is a good idea, the speed will be terrible.
 

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Re: **Need Setup HELP** with Classic Amiga 2000 HARD DISK (Bridgeboard)
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2017, 01:02:08 PM »
Quote from: wbrejnia;823660
What I highlight above but didn't know 100% is when I change controller from Western Digital to Segate, the RLL HARD drive format will not be recognized by Seagate HD Controller.

Good thing the new controller has the same BIOS Low Level Format tool.

At least I know and won't be struggling with another head scratcher.

Yeah you definitely should low level format when you change the controller. Depending on the two controllers involved, the new controller may refuse to read/write the disk or it might appear to work but give you random read/write errors in the future.

If there is a bad block list printed on the drive then you should enter it if you are asked.

The jury is out whether Steve Gibson is crazy or a snake oil salesman.
 

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Re: **Need Setup HELP** with Classic Amiga 2000 HARD DISK (Bridgeboard)
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2017, 11:34:20 PM »
Quote from: wbrejnia;824173
I was originally worried that some RARE bug might be introduced (which would drive me crazy), but from this write up it appears upgrade to 68010 is 100% harmless. http://www.amigareport.com/ar402/feature1.html


It's not harmless, there is software that fails on anything other than a 68000. However using WHDLoad should fix it anyway.
 

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Re: **Need Setup HELP** with Classic Amiga 2000 HARD DISK (Bridgeboard)
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2017, 08:05:17 AM »
Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;824184
Anyone ever put together a list of this?  From what I remember it was only one badly written game from 1986 (Arctic Fox?) that failed.

I don't think there is a comprehensive list in public. However programs like decigel existed and were supposedly needed.

http://www.amiga.org/forums/archive/index.php/t-49210.html

"robo-ant
09-04-2009, 12:47 PM
I had a 68010 in my A1000 before I bought my A1200. Then i put the 68000 back.

The 68010 did give a small speed increase that was sometimes noticeable, but there was software that wouldn't run with that CPU. There was a patch on a Fish Disk (should be on Aminet now) that trapped the problematic MOVE SR,EA instruction (going totally from memory). Actually, I think there was more than one. I remember "DeciGEL" and maybe "SuperDeciGEL" and maybe somthing else.

That patches didn't work with games on custom boot disks, of course. IIRC, Shadow of the Beast was one of the games that wouldn't run with the 68010."

http://www.amiga.org/forums/archive/index.php/t-57838.html

"robo-ant
05-23-2011, 09:57 PM
I had a 68010 in my A1000. There was a small speed difference. Rendering scenes in Turbo Silver I think the difference was only about 4-5%, but there were some demos that ran jerkily with the 68000 and smoothly with the 68010 so the difference was noticeable sometimes. There would have been more benefit from some actual fast RAM (I did the piggyback hack to put my A1K to 1MB), and the combination of fast RAM with the 68010 could have been better again, because IIRC, with the 68010 it was possible to move the VBR to fast RAM.

There were several games that wouldn't run on my A1000 but sometimes it was because of the 68010 and sometimes the weird RAM expansion. I think that Shadow of the Beast was one of the titles that wouldn't work because of the 68010 but it's so long ago I'm no longer sure. I remember going through all my software with the 68000 and the 68010 and I had a table that showed which ones worked, which didn't, and which could be fixed by running SuperDecigel first."

Accelerators and official documentation were much rarer in europe than the US, so I would imagine european games and demos are more likely to be affected than US ones.
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Re: **Need Setup HELP** with Classic Amiga 2000 HARD DISK (Bridgeboard)
« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2017, 09:43:11 AM »
Quote from: wbrejnia;824412
I have been looking around if there are some 68000 Compilers out there for Amiga (for some mini tool coding).


gcc 2.95.3, you can get it here:

http://aminet.net/package/dev/gcc/ADE-repack
 

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Re: **Need Setup HELP** with Classic Amiga 2000 HARD DISK (Bridgeboard)
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2017, 06:32:06 PM »
Quote from: wbrejnia;824861
SO ITS A FAIRLY complex SMART-keyboard, compared to today's DUMB Purely Switch based keyboards.


Modern keyboards are smart, the electronics are just 30 years smaller.