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Offline psxphill

Re: Hypothetical. C= doesn't get the Amiga. Then what.
« on: December 06, 2011, 03:18:34 PM »
Quote from: B00tDisk;670319
What does C= do next?
 
Pursue the C900 and make a go at Data General's (or even Sun or SGI's) marketshare?
 
Push the C65?

C900 would have died in the market, C65 was much later.
 
The C128 stood a chance but was too expensive, it needed more chip integration to bring the cost down. Plus VIC should have been compatible with 2mhz. If Jack had been around then it would have been better.
 
In retrospect I wish Atari had gotten the Amiga as Jack might have done something good with it, but they were just too damn greedy on the share price (which was typical Jack).
 

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Re: Hypothetical. C= doesn't get the Amiga. Then what.
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2011, 03:47:43 PM »
Quote from: WolfToTheMoon;670493
With C= pricing and distribution C900 had the potential to be a winning product. I don't know which reason was given at the time for the cancellation of the C900, I simply cannot see buying Amiga as a reason enough to bin a product that was virtually developed and made for an entirely different market. Well, the usual C= chaos, I guess...

It was unfinished and expensive. The Amiga was better & they could only afford to finish and market one.
 
The Z8000 life was pretty much over in 1985, yeah it was probably cheap but the market the C900 was aimed at wouldn't be impressed. The price thrown around is $4000, it wasn't good enough value for money.
 
If the C900 was ready to ship, then nobody told the 8563 guys as they continued their evil deeds through out the C128 project.
 

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Re: Hypothetical. C= doesn't get the Amiga. Then what.
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2011, 05:44:38 PM »
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Well after a little Googling I found that the SGI IRIS 2400 came in at a shocking $60,000
For it's day it was f'ing amazing however:
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EEY87HAHzk

Yeah the C900 really had no market.
 
The only place I've seen a Z8000 is in the arcade version of pole position (IIRC there are two). It's not a great CPU.
 

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Re: Hypothetical. C= doesn't get the Amiga. Then what.
« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2012, 08:50:32 AM »
Quote from: martyg;681825
Regardless, had Commodore not bought it Amiga would have simply soldiered on seeking more investors and a potential buyout, or gone under because of the bad financial state they were in and its assets split up among the investors.

With Amiga not being able to meet their payroll obligations or repay Atari the money they had borrowed, there was no way they could soldier on.
 
Without commodore the Amiga would have ended up being controlled by Atari, with (IMHO) even more disasterous results than what happened under commodore.
 
While commodore could have done better, Atari could easily have done worse. Either way, by 1993, neither of them could survive against the PC market.
 

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Re: Hypothetical. C= doesn't get the Amiga. Then what.
« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2012, 01:56:01 PM »
Quote from: olsen;686371
I suppose not really knowing what to do with Amiga is but part of the picture. Did Commodore make good use of MOS Technology/CSG?

They definately did before Jack left, although "good use" means ringing every last cent out of them without investing for the future.