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Offline psxphill

Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #14 from previous page: May 19, 2011, 10:21:19 PM »
Quote from: desiv;638992
You're arguing semantics..
It's a law involving the right to copy certain copyrighted material..

It's not semantics. Copyright law allows the copyright holder to control when copying takes place.
 
DMCA covers removing DRM, even if you haven't infringed on anyones copyright. Your copying might be fair use, but you still can't bypass the DRM.
 
DMCA doesn't give or take away any copyright rights. The safe haven doesn't give anyone a right to copy either, it just says that if they take down copyright infringing files then they won't be prosecuted. This is completely different from them having any rights.
 

Offline psxphill

Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #15 on: May 19, 2011, 10:39:56 PM »
Quote from: desiv;639001
I disagree..
 
According to the government, it is:
 
www.copyright.gov/legislation/dmca.pdf
 
But you know best... :)

Thanks for acknowledging that, it's the first intelligent thing you've said.
 
The copyright office is involved in it, circumvention of access control to copyright works is covered by it. However the only part that is involved with copyright infringement is the safe haven, which limits liability and doesn't give any rights to copying.
 
So it doesn't give or take away any right to copy, therefore it is not a copyright law.
 
If you don't get it after I've repeatedly explained it, then there is no hope.
Maybe you could try reading the pdf, but it says the same things with more words.
 

Offline psxphill

Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #16 on: May 20, 2011, 08:13:50 AM »
Quote from: desiv;639012
That's where I think you are wrong..
You are assuming that a "Copyright Law" is ONLY the part of the law that involves copying..

I'm not assuming anything. DMCA doesn't cover copying. Using DeCSS is a DMCA violation even when you are using original DVD's.
 
It's no hope as you're purposefully misunderstanding what the act says because you want to win an argument.
 

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« Reply #17 on: May 20, 2011, 08:19:28 AM »
Quote from: Rodomoc;639034
Back in the day when Commodore was still alive, there was no thought of lawyers.

I guess you don't know about all the pirates that were busted in those days. It wasn't the people who copied games who got raided, it was the ones operating pobox numbers who were involved in large scale piracy.
 
Putting adf's on a web page isn't the same as two kids swapping games and copying them at home. One nobody even knows about, while putting prominent links on a public site is going to get noticed real quick.
 

Offline psxphill

Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #18 on: May 21, 2011, 05:59:21 AM »
Quote from: runequester;639246
I know it's copyright infringement either way, but they'd be damn hard pressed to show what losses were incurred because you downloaded Shadow of the Beast for the amiga.

What about if it was available on virtual console/xbox live/psn?
 

Offline psxphill

Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #19 on: May 22, 2011, 08:31:01 AM »
Quote from: desiv;639406
And as I have been saying that you are arguing semantics (allowing us both to have valid opinions), I was specifically NOT trying to win the argument..

You are entitled to your opinion, but you started arguing with me.
 
While I agree that being involved with the copyright office and the fact copyright is in the name would indicate that it has something to do with copyright, nothing within the act itself has added or removed anything from copyright law.
 
The saying "never judge a book by it's cover" is appropriate.
 

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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #20 on: May 22, 2011, 08:51:47 AM »
Quote from: commodorejohn;639255
That wouldn't help a hell of a lot for those of us who don't have a current-gen console, now, would it? Certainly VC and the like are cool services for console owners, and it's neat that the manufacturers are finally starting to cotton to the idea that gamers might like to play stuff that's older than five years, but some of us would just like to play our games on the real thing, thankyoumuch.

Well go buy a second hand copy then. There are plenty around & right now with so much piracy people are just putting them in land fill.
 

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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #21 on: May 22, 2011, 08:57:38 AM »
Quote from: Franko;639262
as usual they failed to even comprehend the original topic and question... :(

The answer to the topic is: for real floppy disks buy NOS original sets from amigakit or second hand originals. For emulation in any guise (minimig, mcc216 & natami counts as emulation) then amiga forever.
 

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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #22 on: May 22, 2011, 11:48:45 AM »
Quote from: Forcie;639438
If the C64DTV counts as emulation too, then basically every reconstruction of a certain chipset ever is going to count as emulation only, even if one made a carbon copy of an A1200.

C64DTV does count as an emulation.
 
A carbon copy of an A1200 wouldn't be an emulation, however you would be violating copyright by making a direct copy.