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Offline psxphill

Re: Copyright continued...
« on: September 14, 2010, 10:07:19 AM »
Quote from: ElPolloDiabl;579170
Copyright doesn't seem to be based on fixed morals. Apparently you can give all rights to the owner and flip off the hapless consumer.

I hate it when I got to a restaurant and pay for a meal, but when I try to leave with the plates, knifes and forks then they call the police. They didn't tell me before I paid that I wasn't allowed to take them.
 

Offline psxphill

Re: Copyright continued...
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2010, 02:43:47 PM »
Quote from: the_leander;579201
Strawman.
 
Back on topic.

Just because you don't agree, doesn't make it a straw man.
 
The shrink wrapped license says that you can't resell it, you know that the shrink wrapped license on every piece of software says it.
 
If you didn't already know, then I'm telling you now. Every piece of commercial software, says you cannot re-sell it.
 
Now you have no excuse.
 
The major reason why shrink wrapped licenses were not considered valid is because people claimed ignorance. Even going so far as to get a dog to open the package.
 
If you don't want to buy the software that says you can't re-sell it then don't buy it.
 
If you want to take the plates away with you, go to somewhere they give you paper plates.
 

Offline psxphill

Re: Copyright continued...
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2010, 03:08:55 PM »
Quote from: Franko;579219
“a new product must be fit for the purpose for which it is sold”, that law also applies here in the UK. I have used it many times in the past against products that were clearly not so.

If software says it works on windows xp, then you can get a refund if it doesn't. If you buy it because you want to run it on windows 7, or upgrade from XP to 7 later then you don't have a legal standing. It was fit for the purpose that the seller sold it, whether it was fit for the purpose that the buyer bought it.
 
However most shops will allow you to return things, just because they don't want bad publicity. Especially if they are selling stuff that doesn't work & you go in when they are really busy and talk very loudly.
 
Eventually everything will be delivered digitally, you can't even make sure you get to keep that.
 
You have a choice of what you buy, but everything has a cost & someone has to pay.
 

Offline psxphill

Re: Copyright continued...
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2010, 03:14:14 PM »
Quote from: pwermonger;579225
This is not nearly a correct analogy since purchasing a meal, you dont purchase the plates and silverware. More correct would be, you buy a meal at a restaurant (analogous to purchase of software)

You didn't purchase the software, you just thought you did. That isn't anyones fault but your own. It said it inside the box, like all the other software.
 
I thought I bought the plates because they put them in front of me and I paid them money. If I were in a plate shop and that happened then I would own them, in a restaraunt I don't.
 
I only know that because of education. Knowing that shrink wrapped licenses say you can't re-sell the software is another piece of education.
 
Anyone that has read my post can no longer claim that they don't agree with shrink wrapped licenses, because I've told you all about them. Education is great.