News of Free 060 Like Apollo Core License

[Iggy]

@Kolla

You where in the frontline of FPU fighters, mentioning it in every needed and unneeded topic, ranting about it, demanding....now you have some other life goal ?

No, I'd still like a better GPU solution than the half assed one that the V2 has.
And when the V4 is actually available, THEN you can tell me what it features, because right now that's meaningless.

In the meanwhile, fanatics like you are the people than ought to be banned.

[Iggy]

I have always wondered why people in Amiga scene want to comment things that they are not interested? Previous example was Amiga OS4, every thread got tens of post from MorphOS people who are not interested Amiga OS4.

Seems that Vampire is now in that position.

I'm not interested Vampire, develobment took wrong course. For me that is end of story. I usually just don't read Vampire threads.

What is wrong with you people?

Only thing wich I have against Vampire team, is that they named their product to Apollo. Now it is very annoying to look anything (real) Apollo accelerator related from internet.

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Commenting 100 posts of nonsense is just pointless and ruins interesting news threads.

This particular kind of nonsense really pisses me off.
OK, I have MorphOS systems, I'm buying an X5000 in the future, BUT I own an A2000.
So why don't you censor yourself, or just STFU, instead of critisising me for having an opinion about something I'd like to buy?

The compatibility issues ARE important. And since high end accelerators for the A2000 are not common, this device is about the only option.
On one side you talk about future goals, and then you say we need to judge the device only on its current feature.
You keep telling us how great everything is, and what a wonderful person Gunnar is, then you attack anyone who dares challenge your Rose colored glasses viewpoint.

Apparently none of you have experience in actual commerce, because your lack of social skills would doom you to failure if you tried to use these tactics on an average consumers.

Your eccentric approach is turning people off and your losing potential supporters.
It's immature and offensive.

[Iggy]

What's with all the merely curious people who've made accounts just to... not answer any questions nor bring any more information to the table?

No doubt they want to 'fight for the cause'. :hammer:

[Iggy]

Yes, there is WinUAE running inside the core! Now you found our secret! And that we are violating the GPL on top of it all!

Wouldn't be any weirder than Intel running Minix3 in its hardware. :lol:

[Iggy]

Well Im a happy Vampire user and I dont hate the PowerPC based Amigas. In fact I think theyre a necessity in keeping the Amiga spirit alive. PowerPC architecture is certainly the likely direction that Commodore would have headed, if they hadnt gone bust, since Motorola had ceased further development of the 68k processors.
How I would have reacted back then to PPC Amigas, I dont know. Being younger and more willing to accept change perhaps I would have embraced them. I hope A-Eon find success as I do Apollo team and other hardware manufacturers.

As I don't see too much overlap, I embrace both legacy and NG hardware myself.
No matter what they do with the Apollo core, it isn't going to outperform a PPC, but it could be a very useful replacement for the 68K.

[Iggy]

At least as an FPGA.

And in time, the PPC will almost certainly end up as a replacement candidate as well.

I can't see that being fast enough to interest me, but it could be done. It's already done under UAE.
For now, we have ( or will soon have) the PPC hardware we need, and my primary NG OS is eventually moving to X64, so I won't really need PPC FPGA emulation.
Besides, Gunnar doesn't seem to be an advocate of it.

The argument could be made that an enhanced 68K would prove just as powerful, but I'm not weighing in on that.
I am 100% sure that no solution we come with on our own will even come close to a modern X64 CPU though.

[Iggy]

In many respects, Apollo extends the life of the Amiga while the PPC merely prolongs its death.

I'm assuming MorphOS is your NG OS of choice. Do we know how far off it is from x64?

Interesting thought. I'd always kind of considered legacy to be the 'Living Dead' of the Amiga world.

So Apollo, to me, would just be a fast zombie.

NG isn't wed to an ISA or a specific platform like legacy is, so altering it doesn't involve the massive re-writes necessary to rework our original platform.