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Re: WTB: Bridgeboard
« on: August 07, 2017, 11:52:33 AM »
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I have an A2286 bridgeboard that needs a home, but shipping out of Australia will likely cost you an arm, leg and testicle.


I've never found shipping into Australia to be particularly odious, but the delivery time makes you wonder if Polynesians in dugouts are used to get packages to and from that country. :hammer:
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Re: WTB: Bridgeboard
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2017, 01:49:35 PM »
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It's because our posties are always pre-occupied with something:



Hey! Don't knock moped racing! I own a Derbi Predator LC myself. :roflmao:

Now yabby farming, there's a weird Australian preoccupation.

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Re: WTB: Bridgeboard
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2017, 05:23:08 PM »
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Still quicker than US snail mail across the country then. ;)


Not really, my shipments can reach anywhere in the continental US in 2 to 3 days via Priority Mail (which is only marginally more expense than First Class postage).
And it IS a slightly larger country than the UK. :)

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You do know it's possible to upgrade a 286/386 based unit to a 486 unit?


'486 upgrades for the '386 I'm aware of, but how would you upgrade a '286?
That cpu is quite a bit more primitive than the '386 and above.
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Re: WTB: Bridgeboard
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2017, 07:34:11 PM »
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 The size of the UK is completely irrelevent to the UK, although I will admit, US egos are FAR larger.


Seriously? Nothing compares to the British ego. Every generation seems to think its somehow entitled to leave its mark on the world. And when the rest of the world stopped paying much attention...

Empire...its a concept we aren't to familiar with. Seems a bit...presumptive?
Although we DID inherit our disregard for 'dark' people from Europe.
The US, India, South Africa, that British sense of superiority really did wonders for those nations.

As to shipping into Australia, yeah, it is pretty easy. They've never questioned anything I've sent to an individual.
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Re: WTB: Bridgeboard
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2017, 02:47:51 PM »
No, not a bogus point at all, and an interesting insight that I hadn't considered.

Culturally, there are vast differences, and more than a certain amount of 'uncouth' behavior this side of the Atlantic.

The British seem to value subtlety as much as our resident from the New England States.
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Re: WTB: Bridgeboard
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2017, 03:31:40 PM »
Interesting, never saw that before.

BTW - Battery acid, eh? Damn, just shoot me!
Actually, I'm surprised our murder rate isn't higher.

We have become increasing hostile in my time, and I don't see that improving any time soon.

But violence is related to crimes of passion and those with a monetary motive.
Outlawing specific weapons just forces people to choose alternatives, and prevents self defense.
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Re: WTB: Bridgeboard
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2017, 12:54:01 AM »
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Arguable. I think the real answer is to remove the motive for violence.


Some would suggest that aggression and violence are hard wired into us, and have provided part of our drive and motivation to succeed.
Observing the behavior of other mammals, I am not sure that isn't a valid argument.
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Re: WTB: Bridgeboard
« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2017, 05:14:33 PM »
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Sheep? Cows? Rabbits? Herbivores are usually non-violent. OK, the males will fight each other for mating rights, but it's not to the death.
 
 Not sure about the primates - some can be cannibals like chimpanzees. I think orang-utans are an example of a largely peaceful primate?
 
 Perhaps males will simply be made extinct, but there are examples of female human serial killers, so I'm of the opinion that violent behaviour isn't based on sex or species.
 
 Maybe tendency to violence is partly based on habit. Bad habits die out because the individuals that practice them die out. Good habits get maintained.
 
 Addictive habits are very hard to break, but not impossible.

Orangutans? No they abuse each other too.

Elephants, rhinos, hippos...all herbivores and all potentially quite dangerous, and not because you are in competition for potential mates.
And male rabbits kill baby rabbits in order to encourage the females to go back into heat.
Violence as a habit? Possibly violence as part of a bad decision chain, but habituation? I'm not letting violent people off by using that excuse (it was my upbringing, its society's fault, I have issues...etc).

And extinction? That is probably inevitable, we've been predicting our immanent demise for most of recorded history.

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What does any of this have to do with "WTB bridgeboard"? :angry:

Nothing what so ever Mike.

BTW - Why does anyone WANT a bridgeboard?

The cpus used in them top out at a very low performance point.
And the software that is compatible with them is, at best, primitive.

There aren't even any really decent accelerated video cards for the ISA bus.

And its not like software running on a bridgeboard is incorporated into the Amiga environment.
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Re: WTB: Bridgeboard
« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2017, 09:32:33 PM »
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A-f'n-men.  Why do we climb the mountain?  Because it's there.  If you don't get it then move on.

I have a bridge board that I've been dying to try out.  Only an 8088 but I'd like to see what it can do, in particular in light of the new demos coming along for the old chip.  A long time ago I had a lead on a 486 bridge board (386 with upgrade,) sent off my money and never got it.  I believe I was one of several suckers on that deal.


Yeah, I don't get the mountaineering thing either...

"We risk our lives 'cause its f'ing there..."?

And NEVER send money directly to anyone dude, that's dumb.
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Re: WTB: Bridgeboard
« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2017, 12:03:18 AM »
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I was young with more money than cynicism and caution.  Experience is the best teacher, yeah?


Don't feel so bad, I learned the hard way myself.
And I still occasionally have direct transactions with some Amiga users.

The climbing mountains for fun thing?
That's still kinda stupid.
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Re: WTB: Bridgeboard
« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2017, 05:33:02 PM »
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Ya'll have gone bat$h!t mad!!!! :roflmao:



Amigans don't 'go mad', they start there. :hammer:

And I don't mind the off topic stuff that Pat and I have included, I always find optimists refreshing.

But I do appologize for the distraction from the discussion of bridgeboards.

Its not that I just don't understand the attraction of bridgeboards, I'd go further to say I don't see the attraction in any older X86 hardware.
Its pretty dreadful stuff.
The only reason I currently use X64 hardware, is the steady improvement that has occurred over decades.

68k systems were cool introduced, PCs...far from it.
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Re: WTB: Bridgeboard
« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2017, 07:22:59 PM »
Quote from: DutchinUSA;829542
Varta did it's job on that one already, look a little closer :(


I see the original battery, but I don't notice any damage from it.
If it's there, could you point it out?
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Re: WTB: Bridgeboard
« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2017, 09:38:23 PM »
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Ohh your right. This one is going to be hard to save IMO.


I don't see the damage you two apparently perceive near the battery. Could you point it out?
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Re: WTB: Bridgeboard
« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2017, 03:49:23 PM »
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Well played!


I feel a bit 'played', but you guys definitely made me reconsider that board.
Then again, it would have been yet another legacy purchase of marginal utility.
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Re: WTB: Bridgeboard
« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2017, 06:28:42 PM »
A little off the current thread, but has anyone ever gotten an IBM 486 SLC2 or 486 SLC3 upgrade board to work with an Amiga '286 bridgeboard?
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