Amazing! New A500+ kit available at A1k!

[Iggy]

Actually that was his family name.  

http://www.snopes.com/donald-drumpf/




AmigaKit still sells Buster 11's so they can't be that rare... which is more than I can say for all the folks saying they're tripping over piles of A500+ motherboards, LOL.  


Edit - strike that last, it now says "Stock T.B.A." for them.  

Fascinating, but weird!

[Iggy]

I don't care what you think about German laws. It's another discussion. No matter what you think: In Germany, German laws apply. And no matter whether you like them or not: You have to be super-careful here if you are selling products. You have to provide services to the customer, and you have to be in fair competition and must follow certain regulations.

BTW - Can you define "fair" competition? Our legal system doesn't cater to vague ideas that can be twisted by legal interpretations.  What you think of as unfair may be what another thinks of as a competitive advantage.
There is legal and there is illegal. Fair is a moral concept, not a legal one.
And while I won't stoop to attacking a German's sense of superiority (moral or otherwise), legislating morality doesn't work.

[Iggy]

A lot of laws, including US/UK/EU, make it unlawful to be unfair in certain circumstances.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unfair_competition

I think you misunderstood his point.

Making ROHS optional for businesses that aren't real businesses (honest) would mean that every single manufacturer would do whatever it took to become a not real business. It's plain to see what companies like Apple/Starbucks/etc did to make it look like they didn't make a profit in certain countries, so they could avoid paying taxes.

Wikis, got love 'em, they are always so fact based. :laugh1:
"This article needs additional citations for verification."

Yeah, it attempts to brand real criminal activities are merely "unfair competition", so its full of a great generalizations, but not terribly accurate.

And so far, we've ascertained that the bare board doesn't violate ROHS rules, so why continue to push this issue?

Also, say you give me money when I go out to buy a cup of coffee, so that I might get you one.
Does this put me in business as a supplier of coffee?

No guys, businesses are licensed entities.
Asking for compensation for your expenses in a group hobbyist venture is NOT a business activity.

[Iggy]

All these comments about German business laws are making my head hurt.  They should just come over here and set up shop in the US!  :banana: :banana:

Honestly, I thought our lawyers were the biggest vermin on the planet until I heard of this "call to order" issue.

And as to not understanding manufacturing, I'll freely admit I don't understand the German restrictions on it.
But it seems obvious that those same restrictions could be a driving force influencing multi-nationals to not consider Gemany as a location for manufacturing.

I thought we had intense environmental regulation over here.
But I'd have no problem coping with US regulations covering this endeavor.

And come to think of it, since I have been using Chinese fabricators for the last several years, it really hasn't been an issue.

And yes, lead in landfills (my country's primary way of disposing of waste) could lead to long term problems.

Finally, throughout this thread we keep hearing how German regulations protect the consumer, but it seems like the costs of this protection AND the opportunistic activities of German lawyers are fairly injurious themselves.

[Iggy]

It's not just lead and the US has a history of poisoning it's population if it meant saving money. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinkley_groundwater_contamination

I'm glad that regulations like ROHS exist.

Since I live fairly close to one of the Dupont plants that developed tetra ethyl lead, I am fully aware that we have a history of promoting dangerous materials.
But ROHS restricions are really not a significant part of the solution to this.
And many substances beyond lead are problematic.

At least we have stepped away from the long chain chlorine related chemistry that was popular in my youth.
And significant strides have been made in improving water and air quality.

As a childhood asthmatic living near an oil refinery, I can testify to the fact that the environment in the area I grew up in is much healthier.