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Re: Call for Amiga Developers from A-EON Technology
« on: October 27, 2015, 06:27:05 PM »
Quote from: alphadec;798215
If A-eon wants to support 68k amiga, why dont they produce some new hardware (computers). ?

They are going to manufacture sound cards.
And maybe they don't want to undercut their OS4 market.

Further, if Jens has most of the supplies of OEM chips, CLPD or FPGA based parts would have to be substituted (not that that couldn't offer some room for improvement.

Finally, A-cube announced a new version of the MiniMig awhile ago, and while that has still not surfaced, does A-eon want to tread on Acube's market?
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Re: Call for Amiga Developers from A-EON Technology
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2015, 12:50:19 AM »
Quote from: ssolie;798224
The wiki also incorporates all the old Commodore DevCon material as well as all the Amiga Mail articles. There isn't much that hasn't been merged in.

So Steve,
Is this an A-eon or Hyperion initiative?
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Re: Call for Amiga Developers from A-EON Technology
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2015, 03:12:37 PM »
Quote from: ssolie;798382
...get out of the way because they aren't slowing down for a few hippies. :)

OK Steve, that was a good one.
At least in this regard I am on your side.
Pay Cloanto for "preserved" software or buy new.
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Re: Call for Amiga Developers from A-EON Technology
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2015, 11:53:51 AM »
Further development of AmigaOS 3.X?
AmigaOS 4.1 68K?

Hmm, the first can't be done (unless you ask Cloanto), and the second is unlikely as it would undercut Hyperion's PPC product.
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Re: Call for Amiga Developers from A-EON Technology
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2015, 06:32:04 PM »
@ matthey

But its REAL Amiga OS (OS4), they don't have time for, uh real...Amiga...OS.
Huh?

And A-eon doesn't depend completely on Hyperion, except for their entire primary OS.
They could depend on MorphOS (at least until that fragments into support for two ISAs with the emphasis on the newer one).
But, then there is the challenge faced when deciding whether or not to support that new stink bomb they dropped with Tabor.

Legacy guys don't really care about all this (especially those that think WarpOS is going to come racing back to their rescue).

But its an interesting point.
A lot lies on Hyperion's continued existence.

I don't want to see them going anywhere.
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Re: Call for Amiga Developers from A-EON Technology
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2015, 06:39:06 PM »
Quote from: OlafS3;798597
you seem to pollute every forum...

PPC is as retro as 68k in todays world just that 68k has more geek factor. You see that when you look where companies invest in new processor generations. But this is not the topic of the thread.


Olaf, that is not even close to true.
To stick with 68K, yeah you have to be a geek.

But when your 68K has multi-core, can run at over 2 GHz, can run 64 bit code, or address the amount of memory modern processor can, let me know.

68Ks are eol'd, Coldfire is soon to follow, but there are still a few PPC products yet to be introduced, and we haven't even modernized AmigaOS and its related OS' to take advantage of things we have, let alone what we could have with the e6500 cored products.

Sure, port Amiga OS4.1 to the 68K, where it will be too slow to run properly.
And once OS4.2 is released, it will be obsolete.

AND X64 IS the eventual goal, but not right now.

I'm really going to enjoy the next major step in MorphOS' evolution.
That should be able to handle 68K, PPC, and X64 code.
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Re: Call for Amiga Developers from A-EON Technology
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2015, 10:58:48 PM »
Quote from: Thorham;798614
...Utter bull, 68k is awesome and worth writing software for.


This, again oddly, I agree with.
Coding for the 68K family is still a lot of fun for me.
AND its the last processor I bothered to learn to write assembly code on.
It is really quite elegant.

One of the best things Motorola ever created.

Remember, PPCs weren't invented by Motorola/Freescale.

Quote from: ppcamiga1;798612
Real 68k is ancient crap slower than first pentium.

My g4 is still faster than the slowest new PC laptops.


You DO realize the Pentium was introduced after the 68K series, don't you?
A fairer comparison would be, say, a '486.
And until Intel introduced the '386 they were SO far behind that they couldn't even run some code that was possible on 68K.
Why do you think Windows 3.0 (and yeah, I said 3.0, 3.1 was a bug fix) almost requires a '386 or higher?
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