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Re: Crappy comparison of Amiga 1200 vs Atari Falcon
« on: September 09, 2015, 08:00:35 PM »
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The Amiga is not just another computer. They're alive, they have a soul. They're full of charisma from the moment electricity flows through their custom chips.

I'll swallow their soul.
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Re: Crappy comparison of Amiga 1200 vs Atari Falcon
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2015, 07:28:34 PM »
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GEMDOS / TOS from start have support for Accessories.
Accessories are programs that are available from main application so TOS from start could run few programs at same time. Basic for multitasking was there from start but roas was long!
Eventually Atari got three major multitasking OSs: MagiC!, Geneva and MultiTOS (MiNT). Latest have even memory protection.

More about evolution and insides about TOS: http://www.fultonsoft.com/category/atari-st/revisiting-gem-for-the-atari-st/



not sure why Falcon would be useless in any field?!

here you have Atari software database with screenshots and some animations: http://milan.kovac.cc/atari/software/

there are software for any field!


Although not TOS compatible, there is also a port of Microware's OS9 multi-tasking/multi-user operating system for early Atari 68K based machines.
Although it is doubtful that that would run on a Falcon.
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Re: Crappy comparison of Amiga 1200 vs Atari Falcon
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2015, 07:42:54 PM »
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Win3.x was what was available when the A1200 and Falcon came out, making it the right measure.

TOS failed even by that measure, AOS.3.0 was "state of the art", wether it was just as good or better than Win does not really matter.

Actually quite true.
I was working with 68K systems when Win 3.0 was in its beta stages (we had early copies provided by IBM).
Although primitive, Win3.1 did give PCs some parity with the Amiga once the MPC standard was more widely adopted.
And the ST couldn't match either system.

You guys have to remember that while somewhat inferior, MPC based systems had many of the features that the Amiga processed (and a few they didn't).

Its not any big surprise to me that one of the big backers of the MPC standard was Tandy.
They also produced some of the first MPC systems.
Remember, they had a good working relationship with Motorola (so good in fact that they requested and got a specific upgrade to the 6847 VDG used in the Color Computer - the 6847T1, note the "T" designation, AND they had some help in designing the custom chip that replaced that in the Color Computer 3).
How do I know that?
I had phone access to their engineers directly (remember, we were developing 68K based systems) and they were pretty free with information.

So...in case you don't know where this is going...one of the early backers of the Windows based MPC standard was quite familiar with Motorola based systems and you can be assured that they were aware of the Amiga.

In fact, the Amiga was the standard I think they were aiming at, not other PCs.
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Re: Crappy comparison of Amiga 1200 vs Atari Falcon
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2015, 01:12:19 AM »
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...Eventually Atari got three major multitasking OSs: MagiC!, Geneva and MultiTOS (MiNT)...

As well as operating systems originally intended for the Sinclair QL and its descendants like SMS2.

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Re: Crappy comparison of Amiga 1200 vs Atari Falcon
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2015, 07:36:17 PM »
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I'm surprised nobody ever ported amigaos to it.

Well. that is not an open OS...
Come to think of it, I can't think of anything other than an Amiga that will run AmigaOS (outside of emulation).
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Re: Crappy comparison of Amiga 1200 vs Atari Falcon
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2015, 10:20:05 PM »
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I played with an Atari ST the other day. It hasn't aged well, it's pretty crappy!


True, but then most of us wear rose colored glasses when waxing poetic about the Amiga.

Fact is, at least with games, it doesn't seem to perform much better than a Sega Genesis.
"Not making any hard and fast rules means that the moderators can use their good judgment in moderation, and we think the results speak for themselves." - Amiga.org, terms of service

"You, got to stem the evil tide, and keep it on the the inside" - Rogers Waters

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