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Offline Iggy

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The idea of running a PCI-e video card in a PCI slot is appalling.
And the Sam460 and X1000 have PCI-e slots (no adapter needed).
Also, it would make sense to buy a higher end card.
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Re: RadeonHD 4650 + PCI-to-PCIe adapter for SAM440ep/flex and A1XE
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2014, 10:30:55 PM »
I don't think you guys realize how poorly these cards will perform IF 3D support is ever finalized for them.
It would be nice if a reliable, more powerful PCI-e solution (than the SAM460) that cost less than the X1000 or X5000 was available.
A board similar to the SAM460, but with something like a Freescale T1042 would be nice.
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Re: RadeonHD 4650 + PCI-to-PCIe adapter for SAM440ep/flex and A1XE
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2014, 11:41:30 PM »
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Better performance than a 9000 series :-)

With a 733 MHz processor pushing it?
Via a PCI bus?
Don't set your expectations too high.
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Re: RadeonHD 4650 + PCI-to-PCIe adapter for SAM440ep/flex and A1XE
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2014, 12:27:39 PM »
Obviously, even bottle necked by a really slow bus, a more powerful GPU should perform better.
It just seems wasteful to place further limits on a decent GPU's performance.
Acube's use of slow, relatively low power PPCs without AltiVec already limits performance.
While the X1000 supports AltiVec (and is quite faster), the X5000 won't and at 2.2 GHz it has a real speed disadvantage when compared to the X86 systems that modern video cards are usually run in.

While all these developments ARE improvements to our environment, we still operate at a disadvantage when compared to mainstream systems.

This, when combined with uncompetitive pricing, discourages further expansion of our community.
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Re: RadeonHD 4650 + PCI-to-PCIe adapter for SAM440ep/flex and A1XE
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2014, 02:07:55 AM »
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I would pay money for an updated driver that gave 3d support to the 9800pro (warp3d would be a bonus).

My other option is to switch to MorphOS as I see you can use 9800pro with 3d games, still no warp3d though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoYfGDSDVB0

Only downside is I like AmigaOS's workbench over MorphOS...

Atleast with the Peg I can run both :-)

Yep, and if you get an 9800 with a universally keyed AGP card edge (two notches instead of the single notch in a 4x/8x card) you can run that in a Peg too.
And I've seen 256MB 9800Pro cards with R360 GPUs (the 9800XT GPU) that have that card edge, so there is a way to get that installed in a Peg also.

What would be nice is support for the concurrent use of two Radeon video cards. Then we could run Warp3D apps on an R200 and newer apps on an R300.
Right now, the only combination I've been able to figure out that will do this is an R300 and a Voodoo PCI card.
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