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Re: Opinions / Info - AmigaOS 4.x Systems
« on: March 16, 2014, 10:41:18 PM »
Quote from: Duce;760882
I didn't see anyone showing interest in MOS systems in this thread, TMHG.  

I know how much you like preaching the blue gospel, but enough sandbagging other peoples threads.

HARDLY, its a valid point. And as MY interests cross both OS'. I'm interested.
So your OS can't do HD video?
How come every time there a flaw in OS4 performance, we're preaching 'blue gospel'?
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Re: Opinions / Info - AmigaOS 4.x Systems
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2014, 12:13:08 AM »
Cool Hans.
That is exactly the kind of info I wanted back.
An X1000 system can do it, I thought that was likely (if a G4 PowerMac system handles it).
Hard to say if they e5500 cored cpus in the X5000 will improve on this.

BOTH OS4 and MorphOS could use gpu acceleration to aid these rates.

And, no, it doesn't take big cpu power with the right hardware.
Relatively underpowered ARM cpus can handle 1080p.
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Re: Opinions / Info - AmigaOS 4.x Systems
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2014, 02:22:48 PM »
Quote from: Boot_WB;760954
Indeed, in fact if using YUV & overlay/textured, 720p should be within the bandwidth limitations (other possible bottlenecks aside eg decoding).
 
Thanks for the detailed answers, and sorry yto the OP for the thread detour ;)

It might be pushing it for a SAM460, which is why I'd really like to see a hardware decoder.
These are often incorporated into ARM Socs (seperate from the GPU), but we could add one via PCI or PCI-e.
 
And yes, sorry for the detour.
I myself am a rapib MorphOS user, but that doesn't mean I don't want a Sam460 or X1000. And, as OS4 is the closest OS to MorphOS, obviousaly I keep track of developments in it.
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Re: Opinions / Info - AmigaOS 4.x Systems,
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2014, 06:23:46 PM »
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Iggy, did you mean "rabid" as in rabies, a neurodegenerative and fatal viral encephalopathy where normal animals become aggressively hostile and attack others?  This WOULD explain some posts by MorphOS users.

Of course! I've got hostile and aggressive honed to a skill.
Some of us are polite like Andre, and some like us (like myself) feel the need to go full bore a-hole when offended.
Like I've said before, everyone has to have a hobby.
Mine's proving you can't be a bigger jerk than me.
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Re: Opinions / Info - AmigaOS 4.x Systems
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2014, 10:56:07 PM »
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Iggy, did you notice the "fatal" part?

I've decided not to die Dan, it doesn't look good.
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Re: Opinions / Info - AmigaOS 4.x Systems
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2014, 02:31:56 PM »
Quote from: takemehomegrandma;760989
I obviously don't speak for the MorphOS team, but to me it seems like the MorphOS team believes that providing HW support, API's and drivers for applications to use, is one of the core functions of an Operating System, and they mostly (with a few exceptions) wants to develop their own drivers, especially the GFX drivers. If/when MorphOS will support the Sam 460, I expect GFX drivers to be there, as they are part of the package, one of the things defining the word "support" when talking about an OS supporting HW. I guess we'll know in due time...

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in due time...I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.
That's one of the advantages in not talking about ongoing developments.
But with a history of going farther than anticipated, I expect some great things to be released.
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Re: Opinions / Info - AmigaOS 4.x Systems
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2014, 05:38:45 PM »
Quote from: fishy_fiz;761020
Yeah I realise that and fab has created a nice browser, and to be honest I misread the post I responded to a little.
The idea however wasnt to belittle fab's work, but rather to question the, "goose, not gander" mentality.

The porting/development distinction was me dismissing the idea that porting things doesnt require actual development (especially larger software lacking any sort of exec/intuition/etc codepaths/support). In fact its probably easier at times to borrow code for "original" software than to port existing software. Not that I have to tell you this Im sure. Merely for the sake of clarification.

Yet another testy entry into this thread. :roflmao:

And it still comes down to "buy a SAM460 or a PegII".

Oh well, melodrama is our forte.

Popcorn anyone?
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Re: Opinions / Info - AmigaOS 4.x Systems
« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2014, 05:41:19 PM »
Quote from: itix;761019
@fishy_fiz

WebKit is ported (and many other libraries) but the browser is developed on MorphOS.

Anyone ever use a straight port of Webkit?
I've tried it on my Mac and its dreadful.
Odyssey is definitely more than just Webkit.
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