AmigaONE X5000 (A-Eon Technology Ltd on Facebook)

[Iggy]

They can call it AmigaONE DonkeyBalls X5000/5020:eP64-1A4 for all I care.
What's more important to me is that:

• it is released to the public by the end of 2014
• it is available in Board + OS form
• the "price of admission" for the new systems (X3500 board + OS) is bellow US$1,000

I have not seen that quoted before.
That would be a great improvement in pricing.

[Iggy]

It would be nice to get down to that pricing level, but with the high engineering and design costs and small production runs, it will not be achievable, unless boards were sold at a loss.

I...didn't think that was realistic either.
I'd done some numbers estimating an 'at cost' T1022 based board and that was at least as high as that price.
And...I really want one of the two higher end boards.
Or...a successor with AltiVec instructions.

[Iggy]

I guess you didn't understand the point then.  

With regard to OS4.2 I haven't claimed that it proves multicore slots neatly into AmigaOS, to be truthful I will remain sceptical about whether or not it will work until I see it.  Please try to see past the hostile fanboi stereotype that I exist as in your mind.

Anyway since you say that you have had ARIXfor the past 6 months, does it boot on every x86 system you've tried, and are you no longer stuck with glitchy video modes on certain video hardware.
Is the concept a reality?

I'm not sure I understand your point.
Does OS4.2 boot on any PPC hardware?
Is it free from glitches?
"hostile fanboi stereotype", yep you fit that.
Did you know that Nik has used OS4 in the past?

I thought about it myself, but only so I could play around with A-eon's neat hardware.

[Iggy]

I still do use OS4 Jim, though because I believe both MorphOS and AROS to be superior to it (but for different reasons) for many people this makes anything I have to say on the matter irrelevant.

OS4 users aren't allowed to discuss it's shortcomings in public for fear of being tarred and feathered as a traitor.

Confusing isn't it?
Campaign to help them get a decent browser.
Try to offer some kind of laurel branch.
Get your hand bit off if your sound the least bit critical.

[Iggy]

...Going down the path the Amiga market is currently going does not make sense - it leads to certain and inevitable death.

'He's dead, Jim'

Get over it.

And given the budget AmigaOS has you aren't going  to pass anyone, Andriod, iOS, MS Windows, OSX... Realistically it's  survival you want, anything else is cream.

Dead, alive?
We are still here.
And A-eon is now producing three type of boards instead of one.
Sounds successful to me.

While the company that wanted to build commodity based Amigas is no more.
Yeah, we should listen to YOU guys.

[Iggy]

I love how both sides passive agressivly claims the other camp is raving lunatics/fanbois/zealots.

For the most part you all come off equally bad.

The only intresting part of this thread is the exchanges between amigakit and Kremlar.
Substance instead of mudslinging makes for intresting read. Who would have thought.

"Your a loony" - Monty Python :banana:

The only substance here was the initial announcement.
Amigakit just didn't want anyone misrepresenting their price range.

The rest of it has been yet another displaced Moobunny thread.

[Iggy]

Man!
Can we go off on some tangents or what?

Back to the topic of the thread.

OK AmigaKit, if we don't have the price range right, what IS it likely to be?

[Iggy]

Except that I'm a Hyperion customer who uses OS4. Other than that your analysis is spot on.

edit: Reading through this thread again, the people you are complaining about are neither MOS nor AROS fanboys, so what was your point again?

Yes, I'm blue, and I support A-eon.

And I am not sure why Andre would assume I'd paying that much for a rather unremarkable X64/X86 motherboard.
I hope that strategy is not what AROS or MorphOS developers consider in the future.
Its one thing to pay a premium for a board built to market the requirements of our tiny markets.
Its quite another thing to pay a premium for a board that competes in the commodity computing market.

[Iggy]

...I can think of reasons for staying with the Power Architecture for now...

GOOD, so can I.

[Iggy]

Kontron has been around for years.  However Zotac would be preferable since they seem to have crossed over into the consumer market.

Only if you are really into things that break.
Zotac reliability is horrible.

[Iggy]

That would be funny.  What would be even funnier is if someone actually produced the original Gateway Amino contract.   We might find out that Amino never OWNED the Amiga name and it was merely a nontransferable exclusive license.  I wonder where that would leave Aeon and Hyperion?

Something like that may very well have been used by Hyperion to secure its settlement with Amiga Inc.

[Iggy]

you perhaps missed out that im considerd the anti so4, hyperion and aeon troll around remaining amiga forums. i said things like you over and over for years and years. did it change anything? no. does it mean that i accept this? no. i have even supported aros even though being actual amiga user im not much interrested in neither x86 nor ppc hardware in this case. tbh im a little tired of this all, ive probably only jumped on this thread, because as factual amiga fan to this day i dont like to be called a "wacko" by people who cant talk me into some amiga derived system, whatever it is.

Nobody said that was the reason you're a wacko.:destroy:

[Iggy]

Are you a politician by chance?

Worse, he is a moderator.
And a blue one at that.

[Iggy]

:facepalm:

Sorry (sort of) I couldn't resist.
Besides, we are taking this entirely too seriously.

[Iggy]

Look at this

http://www.fanlesstech.com/2014/01/60-bay-trail-d-motherboard-shipping.html


And a quad-core version will be available for 70$! Awesome!

A. No one has this.
B. Its a dual core.
C. Even this version costs as much as you are quoting (I don't see a quad core version).
D. Compared to other X64 hardware, it is slow.
E. It doesn't run OS4.

[Iggy]

it's just an indication of how ridiculously underpowered and overpriced this custom PPC hardware is in 2013.

BTW, a quad core atom Z3770 is faster than a quad PPC970MP system at 2.5 GHz. So it is not slow, especially for 70 $

Nope, not even close.
And my G5 cost me $100.
So, for that I might get ARM.
Not X64.