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Re: AmigaONE X5000 (A-Eon Technology Ltd on Facebook)
« on: January 09, 2014, 03:29:02 AM »
Well that makes little sense, jump from X1000 to X5000.
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Re: AmigaONE X5000 (A-Eon Technology Ltd on Facebook)
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2014, 02:27:09 PM »
Quote from: persia;756678
Seems like they are now trying to avoid Amiga product numbers.  That is a good thing.

No, it seems pointless.
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Re: AmigaONE X5000 (A-Eon Technology Ltd on Facebook)
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2014, 05:29:04 PM »
Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;756693
It's new hardware.  Running AmigaOS.  But still the community will find a million things to complain about, LOL.  Oh well, kudos, anyway!  :drink:

Well, one sane voice from amongst the fanatics.
Don't expect the legacy wackos to appreciate the new hardware.
Even if it can run circles around their beloved hardware, they hold tightly to their beliefs.

As to pricing, don't get your hopes up folks.
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Re: AmigaONE X5000 (A-Eon Technology Ltd on Facebook)
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2014, 08:11:07 PM »
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i do not appreciate being called a "fanatic" or a "wacko" as long as my interest remains (for various reasons) with the real thing and not neccesarily with followup hobby projects. it remains everybodys own right to choose whether they are into the fpga systems, mos, aros or os4 or not. while these solutions may be interesting for some (even i have remaining interest in them), they cannot compete with what genuine amiga is, being actual popular and progressive product at its time, rather than a geek project for few interested. wandering around the net you will notice, that there is still rather huge sentiment for amiga, its users keep in private, usually not participating in any so called "amiga" forums, partly even aware of current developments such as aros68k. i dont think you are entiteled to insult these people, just because they might not buy into what *you* consider "amiga ng".

Apparently you have your own opinions.
But while you can ask me to be more civil, you can't convince me to join you.
The Amiga is dead.
And, it was a seriously over priced device when new.
Which is why I gravitated to other 68K based systems that offered better value.
As to the value of NG systems, while no one is insisting you join this community, at least they can run modern software.

"they cannot compete with what genuine amiga is"

Yes, they are not deathly slow with limited and expensive upgrade options.

And you are a fanatic.
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Re: AmigaONE X5000 (A-Eon Technology Ltd on Facebook)
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2014, 08:23:30 PM »
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Please, don't turn this into a flame war.

If you don't like the new hardware, then just don't say anything. There are to much negativity and its driving people away.

Sorry, I'm not trying to be argumentative.
I have actually been looking forward to this hardware for awhile.
And there is no promise my OS of choice will ever run on it.

Its just nice to have some new Amiga hardware.

Yes, I used the word Amiga, unapologetically.
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Re: AmigaONE X5000 (A-Eon Technology Ltd on Facebook)
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2014, 09:01:44 PM »
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... seems asking you to be civil is really a waste of time. wonder why.

Quite right actually.
I was discussing this with Andre Siegel recently, and I think its related to an innate need to cut through it and quickly establish the boundaries of a relationship.

We have an obvious difference of opinion here, but I at least look favorably of the devices in question.

And my a2000 still works too, when I choose to use it.
It still doesn't make the platform any less dead.
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Re: AmigaONE X5000 (A-Eon Technology Ltd on Facebook)
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2014, 09:54:30 PM »
Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;756714
Geeze, somebody is combative enough?  Just waiting for this to turn into another 10-page-thread going back and forth about whether the new hardware is actually "Amiga", etc.

Here we go, I'll bring the



:crazy: :crazy:

It could go there.
At least the new machine runs AmigaOS, which is more than the planned Amiga Inc. machines would have.
Of course, most people conveniently forget that most calls for a new ISA ask for X86/x64 hardware.

We are an argumentative lot.
At least we know when to break out the snacks and beverages.
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Re: AmigaONE X5000 (A-Eon Technology Ltd on Facebook)
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2014, 10:15:10 PM »
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ok, apparently you have a problem.

No, I'd have a problem if I kept that in.

Quote from: wawrzon;756719
if it still makes you feel entiteled to call others names..well. i had my say and am done with it.

Obviously not since you are back.
However, since this isn't "getting hit over the head class", I don't mind you being here for an argument.

BTW - How would you feel if A-eon secured the right to call these Amigas?
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Re: AmigaONE X5000 (A-Eon Technology Ltd on Facebook)
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2014, 11:16:57 PM »
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sigh.. you are obviously mistaking me for vox. i didnt went rage on cusa when they secured the right to call their systems "amiga". it doesnt affect my genuine interests. are we done yet?

No, but you're right, your not VOX.
You can still be reasoned with.
And its not like I can't appreciate your viewpoint, I used to share it.
But things change.
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Re: AmigaONE X5000 (A-Eon Technology Ltd on Facebook)
« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2014, 02:38:44 AM »
Quote from: zylesea;756731
Don't use f*ckbook!

Hey, Andre says we can not make fun of a banned poster!
f*ckbook indeed. :hammer:
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Re: AmigaONE X5000 (A-Eon Technology Ltd on Facebook)
« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2014, 01:48:41 PM »
Quote from: OlafS3;756754
And that from someone that wants to buy not competitive PPC hardware (both price and performance). From the view of a X86/X64 user you could be called "legacy wacko" too. What do you think? And do Amigans only like hardware that is underpowered compared to the competition? :-)

"they hold tightly to their beliefs" I do not know why I think of you too...

Fair enough, I actually like being part of a small community.

And the quad core 2.5 GHz G5 I am rebuilding is in no way underpowered.

My X64 desktop has two less cores and a similar speed.

Also, for Amiga like OS', its overkill.

You guys build can build your own hardware, I'll stick with Macs and the stuff A-eon is building.
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Re: AmigaONE X5000 (A-Eon Technology Ltd on Facebook)
« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2014, 01:52:17 PM »
Quote from: OlafS3;756780
I only comment here because of certain phrases used by him that are not very nice. And to be precise Iggy is a MorphOS user praising A-eon (a mixed beast so to say :-) ).

That DOES seem weird, doesn't it?
After exchanging some messages with him, I honestly like Trevor Dickinson.
And I have watched the development of Freescale's e5500 cored cpus since they were announced.

Now that A-eon is not directly tied to Hyperion, I don't have a problem cheer-leading for them.
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Re: AmigaONE X5000 (A-Eon Technology Ltd on Facebook)
« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2014, 05:00:19 PM »
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is that how trevor sees it? because so far it looks like they are directly tied to each other, doesnt it?

I know with Hyperion's history of maligned statements, it can be hard to forgive anyone remotely connected with them.
But I don't hold a grudge against OS4, its users, or developers.
Specifically, while there are others involved in this too, its Ben Hermans I object to.
And he is no longer part of A-eon.

Even most of the MorphOS developers I've talked to don't dislike Trev.
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Re: AmigaONE X5000 (A-Eon Technology Ltd on Facebook)
« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2014, 11:11:27 PM »
He HAS a point.
The pricing IS exceedingly painful.
Basically its serves a niche market and is a vanity project.
No one is trying to argue practicality here.
Its a hobbyist system.

Not only isn't he forced to buy it, he doesn't have to support it.
There is a strong argument not to.

I never said my own attraction to this system was based on logic.
If it was, I wouldn't support the idea of a Morphos port, as a 2.5 G5 Quad core PowerMac would offer the same performance as the best of these boards, at a much reduced cost.

That being said, I still like it.
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Re: AmigaONE X5000 (A-Eon Technology Ltd on Facebook)
« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2014, 11:49:49 PM »
Quote from: agami;756819
They can call it AmigaONE DonkeyBalls X5000/5020:eP64-1A4 for all I care.
What's more important to me is that:
  • it is released to the public by the end of 2014
  • it is available in Board + OS form
  • the "price of admission" for the new systems (X3500 board + OS) is bellow US$1,000

I have not seen that quoted before.
That would be a great improvement in pricing.
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