X2000 or sue ... your comments

[Iggy]

I am baffled as to how this has anything to do with Trevor.

[Iggy]

"the words you have written... are in English... but I can't make heads or tails of what you're trying to say..."

seconded

[Iggy]

What's this Big Book stuff?  There hasn't been Amiga branded hardware that runs AmigaOS produced this century...

Pointlessly divisive comment.
Frankly I'm glad that I could care less about branding.

Unless you are deluded enough to think 68K Amigas are going to make a miraculous comeback from the dead, legacy hardware compatibility is a non issue.

These computers AmigaOne branded or whatever, deserve more respect then they get from the fan (atical) base.

[Iggy]

Vox, that Powermac G5 with MorphOS 3.2 is still for sale, asking 150 Euros.

http://www.njuskalo.hr/macintosh/powermac-g5-2.0ghz-dualcore-oglas-8614473

Nice price.
With or without an OS key?

Funny, this whole discussion of the merits of one option vs the other parallels a long discussion I had with David Morris.
And while I now own a G5, I would still consider an X2000 or a SAM460 (at least if MorphOS were an option).

[Iggy]

This is turning into another X1000 bashing...

To a degree people do have the right to be annoyed. The X1000 is not marketed as the beta X1000 computer.

As for driver support, it is a insult to all X1000 customers that there is talk of the X2000 when the X1000 is still a work in progress.

That last comment seems rather bizarre.
Frankly, rather than an insult, I'd consider it a sign of success.
And at least I could never be considered one to bash this platform.
Certainly the rate at which Hyperion develops drivers is pathetic, but that is not A-eon's fault.
Trevor has even give cash to Hyperion's contracted developers for 3Ddriver development (which still has not produced results).

Rather than consider bashing A-eon and its well designed product, I would just like to take the moment to point out how much more successful this might be with the right OS.

And that OS does not carry the Amiga name.

That legacy does seem cursed, as all legitimate development after Amiga has received less support than would seem appropriate.

[Iggy]

Thanks, that means it's off my Xmas list then.

No Altivec in this day and age is ridiculous.

Freescale has announced that an improved set of AltiVec instructions will be reintroduced to later revisions of the e5500 core (as well as other Qorlq products).
That being said, Trevor has decided to move forward before these products are introduced.
While I disagree that they are not commonly used (MorphOS will use them when present), their abscence is not a game changer for me.
The processors in question still have a good floating point unit.
And later revisions of these processors should be compatible with Trevor's new designs.
You have to remember that the processors used in Acube's boards don't support AltiVec either and can still run operating systems like MorphOS (which still have specific requirements for the math processing unit).
Frankly, I would have prefered an e6500 cored processor, but the rev. 2 silicon for that will not be available until this fall and will then top out at 1.8 GHz (as opposed to the 2.2 GHz Trevor is aimming for).

[Iggy]

Yeah, IF they weren't soldering CPUs on the board... so you can't replace them easily.

Yes, it will not be possible to upgrade, PPC are (and have been) BGA packages.
You would need a carrier board (like Apple) or card (like bPlan).

[Iggy]

yes buy old and used hardware, that is the way forward :/

At 2.3 GHz I'd say my G5 is ahead of the X1000.

"Besides, according to your signature you are using 20 years old hardware..."

Now there is an observation.

[Iggy]

A judge wouldn't care about that though. It runs software so it's not faulty hardware.

Point, score, match...it is not a hardware issue.

And Vox, sorry, but to quote Monty Python "You're a loony!"

[Iggy]

Are we discussing Steven Solie?
Because he is not an A-eon employee.

And I will be buying an A2000, as everyone I know with an X1000 (outside of you) is satisfied.
Further, I look forward to a new system based on a processor that is still supported and being developed.
Finally, I discarded the idea of purchasing a SAM460 awhile ago (and why would you want 4.2 for that as it is a single core processor). Acube uses under powered PPCs from Applied Micro.

[Iggy]

4.2 will bring 3D acceleration for the newer generation of Radeon cards.  Probably far more important to most users than any multi-core support.

You are an optimist.
Personally, I question whether what you get will actually be SMP or some variety of ASMP.
And since the video card driver we supposed to be a seperate package (from 4.2), good luck with that.

[Iggy]

To be honest, I don't give f*ck what MorphOS has before or later, simply not a interested. I don't see why always MorphOS users want to bash other people hobby, that is most important single factor to me to not interest that OS. It is like many MorphOS hobyists have some kind of small dick syndrom?

MUI4 is released today.

We aren't copying your OS' features.

Further, we have MUI4, whatever you have is being called MUI4.
That does not mean they are similar or compatible as our package is now updated by our developers, not the creator of the Magic User Interface.

Also, we're not the hostile ones making "dick" comparisons.

We were here before you.
We have a better OS.
That does invalidate OS4, but our developers are more numerous and more talented.

And we aren't the party that accused the other of stealing, even though our OS predates yours.

Overall, considering you've been offered some of our software, I think we are being the more mature party here.

Oh, and btw, I'm not interested in he size of your penis, my wife says I know how to use mine.

[Iggy]

I think that you misunderstood him.

Probably Hans,
Sorry about the bow shot at OS4.
I actually could see using it.

[Iggy]

@thread

come on, guys. let's not let this thread degenerate into a discussion about schlongs. ;-)


-- eliyahu

Was I the only one that thought that was a little "queer"?

[Iggy]

Nope. Sh1t, that musr make me "queer" too.

Now it all makes sense..... Shut that door!

Thanks Nik.
This nitwit, utri007, was starting to get under my skin, I think I was loosing sense of humor.
And allowing myself to be baited by an OS4 user, what the heck?

Sorry utri007, you're on the ignore list.
Some of my best friends use OS4, but you're not one of them, and most of them have the sense to have a MorphOS system as well.

There is no point in bickering, your vendor screwed up the chance for us all to be using the same OS (the better of the two at that).