Call me insane if you like but I think I want an X1000 now :)

[Iggy]

Awesome! Do it quickly before the Morphos trolls talk you out of it  

P.S. If I had the money I'd buy one too.

I don't appreciate that Kesa, because I agree.
If he has the funds, go for it!

Its a seriously cool design.
AmigaDave almost talked me into buying one (he has an X1000 running Amiga OS 4.1 AND a PowerMac G5 running MorphOS).

In the end, my financial situation prevented me from considering it.

Its THE machine to have when AOS 4.2 is released.

And when Trevor releases its successor, I may buy an A-eon system anyway (price be damned).

[Iggy]

Depends. Usually with a thread like this people just have to point out why the x1000  is a bad idea. Like maybe reminding them that a G5 is dirt cheap and out performs the "overpriced" x1000.

I'll have you know, Kesa, that I was in contact with Paul Gentle (@Varisys) before it was even announced that they had designed the Nemo board.

The company that Trevor contracted for this design is truly first rate and I trust Paul's next designs will be equally interesting.

After all, even before the X1000 was released Paul told me that Freescale's Qorlq line was the product line to watch/consider for new designs.

And since he mentioned that, Freescale has introduced two new 64-bit cores in that lineup, one of which (the e6500 core) supports hyperthreading.
The top of the line T4240 runs at the same speed as the  PA6T in the X1000, but has 24 virtual cores.

The e5500 based products Trevor is looking at run faster than the PA6T and feature two or four cores.

And Trevor has always stated that he'd like to see MorphOS support on these later designs.

With Ben Hermans out of the picture, that could just happen.


So, no, not all the "trolls" are going to trash A-eon's product line.

[Iggy]

If you've got the spare cash go for it.  Wouldn't mind one myself but I believe selling a kidney is illegal in the UK.

I've heard some rumors about the German market for these...

(apologies to my German  friends for the poke)

Actually, since I've wanted a Varisys designed Qorlq based system since before the X1000 was introduced, maybe its time to look for some chloroform and find someone for a "sleep over".

Kidneys anyone?

[Iggy]

Hold on there for a second. Are you telling me that OS 4.1 between SAM440 and X1000 in terms of development is a huge difference like say between developing for kickstart 3.1,AGA 68030 verses say on an Amiga 500 kickstart 1.3, OCS?

That software developers could easily target for X1000 while both SAM440 and X1000 run OS 4.1 that the program will fail to run on SAM440 and will only run on X1000 that...in the end the developers need to develop for two separate platforms as if you are developing the same game for xBox 360 and PS 3? Because if what you are saying is true....then not only is that awesome....but as a developer I could easily enjoy this :laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1:!!!

I think the biggest issue will be pure CPU power.
The PA6T running on one core already holds an advantage.
If Hyperion gets SMP or ASMP working the X1000 will have two core to the Samantha's one.
Then again,m the next top of the line A-eon board is supposed to be a four core based system.

To all you naysayers, you may think I myself and other MorphOS fanatics are somewhat elitist. But we've been following this closely since it was first announced.

I had an inkling who was behind it before it was announced.

AND its successor will use components that stimulate me in a most unnatural way (considering we are just talking computer hardware).

Hey, why are so many of you down about this?
Yeah, its been expensive (but as was pointed out, no worse than the A4000 used to be).

And WE WON!
We have three NG OS.
New hardware and alternative platforms for the economy minded.

And Bill McEwen isn't making a cent off of us.

Pretty damned cool and a tribute the the power of our collective devotion.

[Iggy]

It sure is sad. Lots of "hoarders" even with NG stuff. It seems alot of fanboys just want the ng system in their sigs for credit in the amiga forums then you go on their ibook or windows computers and troll against morphos and stuff haha

and yes I LOVE watching Demos on my a1200. I have a fast dual core laptop that runs latest Amiga forever, which is a good platform to watch amiga demos, but seeing the demos on the real thing on rgb monitors is the best!

I don't know about others Mag, but if I had the cash for such expensive hardware I'd be using it.
But, since we've exchanged messages before, I'm sure you're aware that I stick with my "lowly" PPC based Macs which are serving reasonably well.

While I understand your positive on the ISA, I'm not sure what Amiga or Amiga-likw OS' would bring to the X86 "table".
No SMP, a 1.5 GB memory limit, limited hardware selection?
Doesn't sound very competitive to me.
I'm using MorphOS, not AROS.

And the odd part is I know you've used MorphOS yourself.
While I know you advocate an ISA change, that doesn't negate the value that these new PPC systems have.
For one thing, their resale value definitely seems better than an X86 system.

Oh, and btw, I threw away my last CRT based monitors.
Too bulky.

[Iggy]

People still talking about this motherboards (x1000, sams) like real amigas...

Well, lets see, those two systems run Amiga OS 4.1 which was developed from Amiga OS 3.1.
They have the legal right to call them AmigaOne computers.

You maybe hung up on legacy hardware, but my main use for my A2000 these days is to hold ISA breadboard cards as a convenient source of power and a useful backplane.

[Iggy]

BTW guys anyone interested in X1000 might want to buy this guys:

http://amigaworld.net/modules/classifieds/index.php?pa=viewannonces&lid=3204

He is in Poland and looks like you could save a couple of bucks with a used one?

Expensive, but no wait for delivery.
Thanks Mag.
But as you know, I'm a dedicated MorphOS user.
If A-eon's next products support both MorphOS and AOS 4.2 then maybe..

[Iggy]

If you want something really cheap to play around with, I've got a Chinese supplier that has a lot of neat pieces.
20 MHz Z-80s, static ram, etc