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Offline Iggy

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Re: Bounty for better Radeon Mediator drivers
« on: September 13, 2013, 06:32:42 PM »
"I you build it, they will come"

Hey if you guys ask for this enough, someone is likely to pick it up and run with it.
That's just Amiga history.
'Dead' is never an option for us.
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Re: Bounty for better Radeon Mediator drivers
« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2018, 04:18:36 PM »
Argh! I'm not going to LIVE long enough for you die-hard fanatics to get this "just right".

So, yes, I moved to NG, and as that transitions I'll follow that.

Because my ECS and AGA hardware is hopelessly dated, and your FPGA based solutions will never be as powerful as dedicated silicon.

So I should plug my legacy hardware into a Mediator, limiting my expansion options to PCI, then plug an FPGA in as a processor replacement (and at least partially, a chipset replacement)?

And I get a slower system that can't use recent gpus? After I've essentially jacked the whole system up and driven something underneath it to replace it?

And you guys make fun of the cost of a Aeon board?
Keeping in mind that I use a Mac (although I'm open to that option)?
After you've spent HOW much?

Just so you have "the real thing", which it isn't since the things that really accelerate and expand the system are third party?

Truly cuckoo.

Understand, I'm in favor of better Radeon drivers, with a qualifier.

The term Radeon for legacy ends at the 9200.

And the OS4 drivers at least provide acceleration for that, OS3 doesn't have that.

Also, I haven't been worried about W3D acceleration since I moved to a 9800 (which OS4 has a rather limited driver for), but W3D is still a feature of latter OS4 video drivers (for those of you who are truly committed or "commit-able" anyway).

Just my opinion, but the foot dragging of the legacy fanatics is the primary reason it hasn't gone anywhere. Not available resources, the users.
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Re: Bounty for better Radeon Mediator drivers
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2018, 03:45:06 AM »
Quote from: billt;838698
Ask Elbox for a Mediator with PCI-express slots. We'll never get to their bandwidth capability, but at least o physically plug a newer card in...

I can't picture Elbox having the engineering competence need to implement PCIe, although some kind of bridge could be used to at least provide a basic PCIE compatible slot.

Bandwidth? No, legacy Amiga's wouldn't exploit it, but at least something more modern than the R200 based cards could be supported.
Then again, as a graphics upgrade, the R200 is still quite a bit more powerful than the Amiga's own chipsets built in graphics.

So...sorry to divert the thread.
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Re: Bounty for better Radeon Mediator drivers
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2018, 10:12:35 AM »
Quote from: Karlos;838703
In had to laugh at the bandwidth comment. Maybe a GRexx in an 060 powered A4000 might get close to that the R200 is accustom to. Nevertheless I believe the point is more about recency. Its hard to find PCI Radeon cards these days. Most of the R100 and R200 cards were AGP.


Yep, I think the most recent PCI card I have come by was HD5450 based. And they are hard to find.
And PCI 9200s still pop up on eBay.
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