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Re: New project for the benefit of all classic computing!
« on: November 14, 2012, 01:11:02 AM »
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That block diagram seems to almost describe a complete computer. Why even bother with the Amiga part?

I've always asked myself the question: Why? Add a graphics card and a sound card, and you've got a PC with a 680x0 CPU. Not cool :(

Keep it Amiga, guys :)


As the former manager of Delmar Company (which sold computers that WERE pretty much just that) I'm vaguely insulted.
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Re: New project for the benefit of all classic computing!
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2012, 01:18:51 AM »
One thing that Thomas and the Natami team did uncover while they were still working together, the later '060s without a built in math co-processor were very overclockable.
100MHz easy with some able to pull 120.
Why not develop a software math library and try to use these (they're cheap btw)?
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Re: New project for the benefit of all classic computing!
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2012, 03:21:57 AM »
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One thing that Thomas and the Natami team did uncover while they were still working together, the later '060s without a built in math co-processor were very overclockable.
100MHz easy with some able to pull 120MHz.
Why not develop a software math library and try to use these (they're cheap btw)?


Not sure why you guys didn't find that interesting, but for God's sake... 120MHz.
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Re: New project for the benefit of all classic computing!
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2012, 03:17:00 AM »
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Hi, I want to design a couple boards for the amiga, any hardware doc resources out there?
I am thinking a ram and sata card, I could add blutooth as well, I have designed boards with blutooth on other projects.

Its the interfacing curcuits with the existing amiga I really need.
Thanks

Considering how small Bluetooth modules are, couldn't you just design the adapter?
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Re: New project for the benefit of all classic computing!
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2012, 04:26:43 AM »
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Sorry for not jumping the wagon. But as Amiga history showed us, promises made but no actual delivery.

As soon as the products are shown in amigakit, then I will be all giddy.

Amiga history.
We usually get what were promised under MorphOS (except for Qbox).
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Re: New project for the benefit of all classic computing!
« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2016, 04:17:31 PM »
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And I wish my pants were made of gold !!

Yeah highly unpraticle, but since it's never gonna happen anyways, why not go all the way ?

It's quite clear that the thread-starter doesn't fully comprehend what he is talking about.

Just have a look at some of the projects running at a1k.org (I think some similar projects run on EAB). Yep those guys are doing accel-cards, RAM-expansions and even full Amiga-replacements boards and none of them is etching their cards in te basement, the all use proffesional tooling companies (and at the prices i see quoted from time to time anything else wouldn't make sense even for the simplest of PCBs).

Well o.k. Herzi will do his prototyps "electron-cloud"-style, but thats surely not an option for stuff you plan to offer on sale.

Edit:
Mind you the projects the thread-starter mentioned would be doable basement-style (just not in a practical/reasonable way) it's more that some of the early responders carried this thread into lala-land.


That had to be the funniest thing I have read in days.
I want an Amiga made of gold.
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