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Re: Via announces $49 PC with Android OS
« on: May 23, 2012, 02:07:51 AM »
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That does sound more attractive.


Well, it DOES cost quite a bit more.

The VIA system uses the same ARM processor that is in the Sylvania net appliance I just bought.

800MHz isn't blindingly fast, but it ought to be adequate.
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Re: Via announces $49 PC with Android OS
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2012, 02:44:24 AM »
A8 is OK, but if we're getting into power discussions an A9 would be even better.
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Re: Via announces $49 PC with Android OS
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2012, 11:52:52 AM »
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ARM11 is not better than ARM8? Whats the deal with that....

Actually, its ARM Cortex-A8 (which is based on the ARMv7) vs the ARM11 (which is based om ARMv6).
So yes, the A8 is better.
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Re: Via announces $49 PC with Android OS
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2012, 12:18:55 PM »
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No thanks, I can get VIA 1ghz x86 compatible boards for £50. This means WinUAE and every other emulator in the world via XP.


Approximately $78.32. Still more then $50. And you'd have to run Windows.

And i can put together a better X86 motherboard and CPU for only slightly more.

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Re: Via announces $49 PC with Android OS
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2012, 01:08:27 PM »
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What people always forget about something like the Raspberry Pi is that is falls into the impulse buy category... £20 for a computer, sure why not... £30, well ok... £40, that's not really pocket money and I would need to justify spending on that... £50, whatever I buy for £50+ isn't going to be powerful and isn't really very cheap...

bloodline has a very valid point.
That's why when I saw the Sylvania VIA powered Windows CE netbook going for only $39 I snapped one up (in fact, I contacted them the next day and asked for a second).
Its a cheap, out of pocket expense.
When we start approaching $100, I'd give it more consideration.
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Re: Via announces $49 PC with Android OS
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2012, 01:43:20 PM »
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...and then you find out that it's not *really* usable as a computer because of its limitations, so it just ends up in that pile of unused stuff in your garage.


I don't have a garage, so anything I can't use goes up for sale on Ebay.
So its not wasted funds.
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Re: Via announces $49 PC with Android OS
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2012, 03:29:40 PM »
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Doesn't matter... If an Impulse buy product turns out not I meet your needs, it doesn't matter, it only cost a few quid... If I spend £50 on something that turns out to be unsuitable... I've screwed up...

And I've got some great buys that way.
My fist G4 Power mac (a Quicksilver) was purchased for $19.95.

Turned out that it just needed its processor card re-seated.
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Re: Via announces $49 PC with Android OS
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2012, 02:39:23 AM »
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The Genesi unit is aimed at developing nations not the hobbyist market so it is understandable they have no interest in the hobbyist market. The Genesi unit is a complete computer inside a case, the price is reasonable when taking this into account. Nevertheless they are sold out of the A8 unit forever, a new A9 unit will be coming out in the next little bit for approximately the same price.

As a general usage computer the new unit will easily spank the Pi & Via offerings due to the nature of the improved A9 chip. Whether or not the graphics chip is up to par on the new unit will be as good as the Pi's is another matter, but with it being designed to run a Linux distro optimized for schools in developing nations it is likely the video chip is an afterthought.

Perhaps you've got a point, the Genesi machine may be aimed at the third world. If so, its not aimed well. A laptop with an integrated display makes more sense. I can buy an Intel Atom based laptop for about what the Genesi system would cost when a basic monitor, keyboard, and mouse are incorporated. And, instead of running Linux, I can run Windows.

And, for us in the hobbyist market, leave it to Genesi to move from the A8 to the A9 as the market prepares to move from the A9 to the A15.
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Re: Via announces $49 PC with Android OS
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2012, 02:29:00 PM »
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Low end electronics, GO: http://1saleaday.com/

Lowest price I've seen on a color tablet, I bet these sell out.

Still an ARM11, but the price is great.
Wish I had some spare change for one of these.
Thanks tone.
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Re: Via announces $49 PC with Android OS
« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2012, 03:11:34 PM »
Personally, I like some of the "cheap junk' I've bought over the years.
Thanks tone.

The EfikaMX could be interesting if upgraded to an A9, but for higher end ARM I'm still looking toward the A15.
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Re: Via announces $49 PC with Android OS
« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2012, 06:23:38 PM »
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There are many ways you can benchmark things, and here is one:

http://www.morphzone.org/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=3&topic_id=7675&viewmode=flat&sortorder=0&start=164

Please note that Andreas "scaled" the Sam's results to 800MHz, meaning that their real numbers are much lower. Also, I am pretty certain that HW FPU wasn't used on the Efika MX...


Surprisingly good results.
The A9 should be significantly better.
Running AROS, eh?
Is there any chance we'll see a native/not hosted variant?

you guys almost have me convinced.

BTW - takemehome grandma, you're now quoting Andreas?!
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Re: Via announces $49 PC with Android OS
« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2012, 06:53:35 PM »
I'm curious, how well would the hosted version do on something as lowly as an ARM11?
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Re: Via announces $49 PC with Android OS
« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2012, 10:31:31 PM »
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Why wouldn't I?

Its not like you two always see eye to eye.

I, myself, have learned not to argue with the guy. He's usually right (and he'd probably take offense to the qualifier "usually").
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