debian hardinfo benchmarks

[Iggy]

As my 1.42 GHz Power mac has two CPUs, I'd have no problem running benchmarks that utilize two cores.
And my 7455 processors should perform pretty close to the 1.67 GHz 7447 in the Powerbook Piru has posted test for.
So Apple hardware would probably still be competitive (or even possibly best) the X1000 is dual core Linux tests.

[Iggy]

Where have you been lately? I sorta noticed you made a convienient comeback when there is an opportunity for a MOS spam fest :razz:

Anyway, my problem isn't the benchmarks. Numbers don't lie after all. My problem is the motive behind them.

I don't think the people who bought X1000's were concerned too much about benchmarks. That's why I dismiss them as I don't think they are relevant. So why is Piru so interested? He did them  just so he can say "the X1000 is overpriced crap and here is the proof".

I don't necessarily get that message from these graphs.
In most, the X1000 comes quite close to the Powerbook (beating it in one area).
Its the SAM that comes off looking bad.
Yes the X1000 isn't better then the Mac AND there is a significant price difference, but those are just facts.

The X10000's performance is pretty good and would only improve if both cores were utilized. Plus, its new with PCIe expandability that no MorphOS machine has.

What I take away from this is that AOS and MorphOS have approximate hardware parity (on their higher end machines).

[Iggy]

e6500 should not be far behind the top of x86)

Hey, I'm a big PPC fan, but a 1.8GHz processor (even with 8 cores) isn't going to be a threat to an X86.

[Iggy]

No does not.

But the 1.8Ghz 12 core (24cores visible via hyperthreading) should have roughly similar performance than multicore x86 chips. (for heavily multithreaded + SMP + SIMD using tasks)

So you're specifically thinking about the T4280.
I can't think of a PC application that could efficiently use that many cores (outside of the communications applications this chip was designed for).
 
And no Amigoid OS supports SMP.
So the T4280 would be no faster then a PA6T.

[Iggy]

@Iggy
...And e6500 is said to cope with up to 2.5Ghz clock rate.

No, the e5500 is supposed to clock at up to 2.5 GHz.
Freescale has downgraded the e6500 to 1.8 GHz.

However, it does look like some e6500 based products (specifically the T4280) may be able to support better PCIe configurations (then e5500 based products).

And I haven't seen any products listed using this core with a low (or single) core count.

[Iggy]

T4 chips are clocked up to 1.8Ghz.
But they seem to have downgraded e6500 info to 2Ghz.
http://www.freescale.com/files/32bit/doc/brochure/PWRARBYNDBITSQIG.pdf

The old info:
http://media.freescale.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=196520&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=1576370

Yes, the T4 family maxes out at 1.8 GHz and they haven't announced any T1, T2, or T3 products yet.
So, while Freescale claims the e6500 core can run at up to 2 GHz, they haven't pushed it to that yet.

I'm not sure I'm interested in AMP processors outside of the T4280.
That processor offers the most SerDes lanes (other processors in this family have less).
This will allow it to support better expansion options (like 16X PCIe cards).

[Iggy]

How many times must you be told: all of the machines in the graph are running on one core. If any of them were running on two cores you might have some kind of point, but they aren't, none of them. Just because you don't understand this doesn't mean Piru is "trolling".

I'd like to see Piru post dual core benchmarks.
How about a G4 FW800 Power mac, a G5 Power mac, and the X1000.

[Iggy]

I'm sure the benchmarks for the upcoming Galaxy SIII (European, not the Qualcomm American version) will provide some interest as well this month with it's quad core 1.5GHz A9 CPUs.   Wonder who the winner will be.

Whoa!
You actually made a valid point AND you didn't make a CUSA comment.
I'm impressed.
Yeah a quad core A9 at 1.5 GHz would be pretty impressive.
I'd love to see future variants of MorphOS or AOS on that.

But we'll probably see AROS running on ARM before either of those two OS' gets ported.

[Iggy]

well now that you ask things have been stressful lately:knuddel:

I just never thought Piru would stoop that low...I never have said one bad thing about MOS ever so please don't confuse me with others.

 I've tried MOS and think it's a professional and fast OS and if I could have got myself a PegII years ago I would be using it right now! this isnt about blue vs red for me honestly

Well at least we're cool on that, since I myself have considered buying an OS4 system.

But I agree with takemehomegrandma, I don't understand what your problem with Piru's figures is.