MorphOS ahead of AROS?

[Iggy]

Oh, to close this whole argument, "Is MorphOS ahead of AROS?".

MorphOS current revision 2.7.

Aros? It hasn't reached revision 1.0 yet.

Ahead? Yes, obviously.
Why does this matter?
Who brings up these silly decisive topics?

[Iggy]

And Apple G5 version of MorphOS release is at 0.000001 so yes it is a stupid attitude as without G5 or x86 Mac support MorphOS is a toy/nostalgic antique OS.

Except for the fact that we've got the best browser, OS4 has a decent word processor (Cinnamon Writer), and AROS?
Oh yeah, it crashes.

And as I just upgraded to a dual 1.42 GHz G4 with a Radeon 9800XT video card, I don't have the most up to date system, but its quite functional.

A "toy" would be something that only looks like what it is, so...

[Iggy]

"Except for the fact that we've got the best browser, OS4 has a decent word processor (Cinnamon Writer), and AROS?
Oh yeah, it crashes.
Aros? It hasn't reached revision 1.0 yet."

I am really tempted to response in the same tone but I will not do that...

But Olaf, you have been, that's why I went there.
As I mentioned, I have an AROS system set up, so its not like I haven't used it (unlike Smerf and others that have posted here with no experience about what they're talking about).

[Iggy]

pfft shows how much you know about AROS.  



See says 1.61 right there.  

1.61? So we're no longer dealing with a beta product and all libraries are now complete?

[Iggy]

:rofl:


Apparently you didn't get the joke.

because Morphos is 2.7 and AROS isn't even 1.0 correct?   You obviously don't get how foolish that sounded.  If that's the case AmigaOS is at 4.1 so therefore because it's version number is 1.4 higher it must be better correct?

Nope, didn't get the joke.
Must have a different sense of humor, because MorphOS' and OS4's revision numbers make sense to me.
The first number is for major revisions and the second number for minor enhancements.
The different product revision numbers aren't related to each other.

[Iggy]

Still waiting on that long list of software that crashes AROS that is so needed in 2012.
This is a very unproductive thread, I would have thought we would have a long list by now. Could it be there's a load of FUD into all this ? Maybe Mazze would like to have a look at some of those software's crashing that you list here ?

That's pretty easy.
All of it.
In fact, you don't even have to be running any additional software (and it crashes).

[Iggy]

...Morphos 2.7 (and the coming 3.0) however, I will say actually DESERVE that version numbering...
Steven

Yes Steven,
That is fair. And you might be right about OS4.
The primary logic behind the numbering of that coming from the fact that it comes after OS3.9 and is a major revision changes (to a new ISA).

And I'm not saying AROS isn't an impressive product.
But the libraries aren't finished yet, so its not like the major problem is bugs.
Its not finished yet.

[Iggy]

Please go ahead and point me to the status page that hasn't been updated in 2-3 years

Yes, an update of that would be nice.
Bizarre that they would leave information that dated on their web page.

You guys are far too touchy.

[Iggy]

Whow, thank you for that, now I can just leave this thread be and spend my time on something productive. You pretty much revealed yourself as the troll you are with that.

Interesting idea.
Leave, post, do whatever.
As I've mentioned, I'm using AROS on a system I built just for that purpose.
And it has greatly improved since the last time I tried it (I can actually use it now - and lo and behold it actually installs!).

But I didn't start this thread with its lame premise.
Of course MorphOS is ahead of AROS and OS4.
Its been around the longest and has had occasional cash infusions from commercial companies for development/support.

As I said before, you guys are too touchy.
Take your ball and go home if you like.

[Iggy]

Touchy, naah I don't think so. But you can believe whatever you want.
I don't care.

Yes, it would ssem that way too me.
And I'm not here to make enemies, so I do care.

Are you really so out of touch that you don't know that by far the most popular variant of AROS is the one that runs natively, on the silicon, without any trace of Linux?

I do not believe he isn't aware of that.
The Linux hosted version was useful back when the product was in its earlier revisions, but native is the fastest way to run it.

[Iggy]

Nor am I. Peace brother

PS. AROS doesn't crash a lot.  

I officially stand corrected by someone who has more experience with this then me.
I'm just starting out after two years using MorphOS.
I like what I see and promise to stop commenting on crashes as they very well could be due to something I'm doing or a problem with my hardware that I have not diagnosed yet.

[Iggy]

No no no, I would rather NOT use Linux! Talk about a hack job on top of a hack job on top of a hack job. I've got my sights set on Haiku for the future!

As for none of the Amiga OS's having multi-core or CPU support...

...ya sucks don't it? :/

You got me looking into that too.
Looks neat.

And, yeah, since the Quark kernel that underlies MorphOS can support SMP it does suck. Where the f*ck is Qbox?

[Iggy]

What is Qbox?

Qbox was to supercede or run alongside Abox and provide the functions that would break AmigaOS compatibility (like SMP).

Also, I presume you never used BeOS back in the day? Well my man, you are in for a treat, especially once Haiku finally gets version 1.0 out the door and more people begin to code for it.

It's really really cool! Unlike ANY other OS that I've ever used, but I think you'd have to read the tech docs and play around to see that. On a side note, Haiku/BeOS has always had Multi-CPU/Core support. And it will never tell you it can't move or delete a file because it is in use (Like some operating systems I know). I.E. lets say you are downloading a file that is a few hundered Mb is size, then you decide that you didn't want to save it to where you are saving it to, and might forget where it's at when you come back later to move it. Well, no problem, you can move it while it is being downloaded, and Haiku as well as what ever software you are using to download the file, will automatically adjust! Likewise you can do this with any movie or song file that you are playing, etc.

There is a way to monitor all your running programs, see how much RAM and CPU each one is using, and even asign what CPU/Core you want to app to run on.


There is so much to say about this OS, but I'll just leave it to their web page to educate you more.

No, I'm old enough to remember the glowing reviews of BeOS when it was new.
Didn't it originally run on Apple hardware/

[Iggy]

I was a little bit offended when someone asked how we could even mention MorphOS and AROS in the same sentence. Hence I wanted to know if the difference is really that big.

Actually, they're not (except that Gallium may provide an advantage to AROS).
A few parts of MorphOS actually borrow from early AROS code.
And they are both re-implenentations of the 3.1 API.
In fact, they're quite similar.
I'd never want to discourage anyone from either camp from exploring the other environment.
As each runs on different hardware, they don't even directly compete.

[Iggy]

About 3D in AROS...

That is stunning!
What do you think legacy guys?
You can't match that with a "real" Amiga (unless you bought it from Barry Altman).

[Iggy]

Personally, I don't see what the obsession with single button Mac mice is about.
I have a two button PC mouse on My computer.
And, as I've mentioned before, most of my hardware didn't come from Apple (my keyboard, mouse, memory, CPU, hard drive, DVD drive, video card, sound card, & USB card all not Apple parts).
And the computer itself was bought as non-functioning surplus on Ebay for $17 plus shipping.
If I had to buy from Apple (at their outrageous prices) it wouldn't have been a consideration.
And btw, regardless of your prejudices, its well made hardware.

I've never liked Steve Jobs or Apple, but I REALLY like MorphOS on a PPC Mac and I'm not apologizing for that AND I don't want to move to X86 any time soon.