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Re: X1000 - what do you think of this
« on: March 05, 2012, 02:59:17 PM »
VERY weird.
However, I doubt OS4 supports dual graphic cards.
In fact, I'd be surprised if it even supported dual monitors on one HD4650.

Hopefully, in the future, onboard hardware drivers will eliminate the need to use so many cards.

>I thought part of the "Amiga spirit" was tinkering

tinkering? Hell, I like to completely tear things apart and rebuild them however I want!
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Re: X1000 - what do you think of this
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2012, 05:10:18 PM »
Quote from: Kronos;682557
Both P96 (OS4) and CGX (MorphOS) support mutible (different) GFX-cards well since Zorro-time. None supports spanning (1 screen over 2 monitors) or the 2nd VGA/DVI of any GFX-card.

Another issue is OpenFirmware/UBoot/whatever as those will normally only init 1 card while the P96/CGX drivers for the PCI/AGP-cards might expect them to be initialized.

Successfully tested and an AGP-Radeon9000 + Voodoo3-PCI (normal PC version, but doesn't matter as CGX will take that card "raw") in my QuickSilver under MorphOS2.7.

Similar options should exist for OS4.

Thanks Kronos,
I may just have to try that tonight on my Powermac. I've got a Voodoo3 2000 PCI card sitting around (I use it in my PC to re-flash PC video cards with Mac compatible bios').

So, if it physically works, OS4 should support it (and it hardly surprises me that MorphOS does).

But why doesn't the second port of a graphics card work?
Under other OS' it just requires a second driver.

Edit - Hey Kronos,
Has anyone gotten a Voodoo 4500 PCI card to work with another display card under MorphOS?
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Re: X1000 - what do you think of this
« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2012, 11:50:16 PM »
Thanks Hans,
Nice insight.
I was actually pretty impressed at how quickly the HD driver progressed.
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Re: X1000 - what do you think of this
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2012, 12:14:00 AM »
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Sorry, buy I've seen many cases of this where the manufacturers even place holographic stickers on the computers to detect if the case has been opened.

I guess the theory is that while it is under their warranty they don't want you messing with it, but once it has run out then feel free to bugger it up to your heart's content.

Which explains why I have never bought a pre-assembled computer even though I've been using computers since the 70's.
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Re: X1000 - what do you think of this
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2012, 01:13:05 AM »
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@klx300r
ah btw hows timberwolf doing? is it under daily usage already on your os4 setup? ive heard its much better than the previous alpha.. i mean we, sitting on the fence, always keep our eyes on that stuff.

OOO..That was just mean.
Besides, they've still got OWB (even if they had to get one of our developers to update it for them).
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Re: X1000 - what do you think of this
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2012, 02:18:51 AM »
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@iggy
remember owb is alien and not "amiga" native software. or have you not heard that one before?

Yeah, far too often and with similar sentiments from the MOS community.
Its not "native", it relies on something we don't have (Java et al), its too big, there isn't anyone willing to commit time to it, and that last big one...we need to start a bounty.

Argh! Time to brush up on the coding skills a just do it myself.
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Re: X1000 - what do you think of this
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2012, 05:49:44 PM »
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this tradition is bull****!! i never tinker with any computer be it amiga or not unless i need to..

Then there's no point in listening to your opinion.

Personally, i've never had a computer I didn't tinker with.

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Sergio Aragones rules! Personally I've dug that guy since my childhood (with Mad magazines "marginal art" and DCs Plop comics)!

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Re: X1000 - what do you think of this
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2012, 02:40:14 AM »
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The behaviour of certain people on these forums reminds me of a few Dave Chappelle skits under the title "the haters club."

Hans

Sorry about that Hans. I've always been very supportive of the X1000 (which should help counter the blue vs red nonsense).
But some of the posters here are very negative toward PPC based systems and NG OS' in general.

That's Amigans for you. You give some of them exactly what they want and some of the others **** on it.
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