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Offline Iggy

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Re: Why no Amiga equiv to Firebee?
« on: February 16, 2012, 09:03:40 PM »
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And not forgetting the Elbox Dragon!

/Straight face


Any...day...now...
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Re: Why no Amiga equiv to Firebee?
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2012, 09:09:48 PM »
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Why is there no Coldfire-based Amiga project underway, like the Firebee that the Atari ST folks have going?

Simple.
Because the Freescale Coldfire processor family is not completely compatible with the 68000.
Many instructions and addressing modes are not present are other operate differently then they do on the 68K.
These differences require software traps that limit the efficiency of the Coldfire while it tries to emulate a 68K.

That's why the Natami uses a real 68060 or an FPGA emulated 68K CPU.
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Re: Why no Amiga equiv to Firebee?
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2012, 02:29:46 AM »
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on another thought (I've had a drink now) do we want a computer or a games machine?

Personally, I'd like a computer (although one that could be used to play games wouldn't hurt).
And the PS3 was neat (I spent a lot of time studying the specs of that), so was the XBOX360 (and the Wii U is more of the same).
But none of them are open systems.

AROS is the closet thing we have to an open system.
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Re: Why no Amiga equiv to Firebee?
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2012, 06:50:25 PM »
@ HenryCase,

I will admit, even as a MorphOS user, I find AROS interesting.
The fact that it is open source does lend it some strength.

If it ever gets to 1.0 status it will be quite an accomplishment.
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Re: Why no Amiga equiv to Firebee?
« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2012, 12:30:25 AM »
Thanks joska,
That has to be one of the more interesting posts I've read recently.
I didn't expect the Firebee to perform that well.

Still, you retro fanatics probably ought to stay focused on the FPGA projects. That should have similar performance benefits with possibly better compatibility.
"Not making any hard and fast rules means that the moderators can use their good judgment in moderation, and we think the results speak for themselves." - Amiga.org, terms of service

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