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Re: Aos 3 -> aos 4
« on: June 03, 2011, 11:35:48 PM »
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My appealing list: MorphOS, AROS, FPGA stuff, UAE, OS4.

Close to my own order.
MorphOS, FPGA stuff, UAE, AROS, OS4

And OS4 has the same browser MOS does (thanks to Fab).

But this whole thread just re-hashes our own personal preferences/prejudices again.

Can't we come up with something more original?
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Re: Aos 3 -> aos 4
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2011, 11:57:02 PM »
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...before you couldn't not understand what I was saying...

Ha!  +1

I don't want to spend that much for that little either.
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Re: Aos 3 -> aos 4
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2011, 02:26:44 AM »
Quote from: drHirudo;642261
Firefox?

Timberwolf. Not yet.
OWB
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Re: Aos 3 -> aos 4
« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2011, 06:33:43 AM »
Quote from: drHirudo;642324
BTW Firefox works on my machine - AmigaOS 4 Update 2

No, it doesn't. Timberwolf does.
And right now most OS4 users are using a version of OWB ported from MorphOS.
I think most developers (like Piru) object to ports that rely on the use of packages like Cygwin or sloppy recoding for Windows dll dependencies.

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May be I shall create a thread with my MorphOS experience on PowerBook  ---> Total FAIL, but I have OS X so I did not miss anything.

That would be silly. MorphOS doesn't run on Powerbooks (yet).
You were foolish enough to try?

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Nice that you are linking thread to a person who is enjoying his Sam460.

Why? Do you think WE have some prejudice?
I like hearing about developments in the second best PPC OS for amiga users.

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I
AmigaOS 4 does not run on Mac machines - but the latest version runs on  classic Amiga machines, so the developers wouldn't need to recompile  their apps for old machines and new machines

AmigaOS 4 does not run on Mac machines - except for that version that leaked out for the Mac Mini

the latest version runs on  classic Amiga machines - no, it runs on machines expanded with third party PPC accelerators

so the developers wouldn't need to recompile  their apps for old machines and new machines - Both OS4 and MorphOS will run some legacy apps without recompilation, but far from all of them. And if you're running on a legacy Amiga (with a third party PPC accelerator) you're going to need to reboot to OS3.X to run the rest.

Why are OS4 users so defensive?
Is it because most OS3.X users don't want the product?
Or that when OS3.X users examine PPC OS', they frequently choose MorphOS (over OS4)?
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Re: Aos 3 -> aos 4
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2011, 02:04:43 AM »
I can't believe this thread is still chugging along!
If the original intent was to sell some OS3.X users on the advantages of OS4 its failed miserably.
And I actually welcome the presence of Hyperion in the PPC market. Code developed for OS4 should port easily to MorphOS (if we could find some OS4 code worth moving in that direction). Instead we've got you troglodytes insulting one of my favorite programmers (who did your market a favor when your own OWB coder quit).
Given enough time, OS4 might become a fairly decent operating system (I particularly like the recent announcement that OpenGL will eventually be supported).

But right now the community supporting it should be more cautious with their statements and comparisons.
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Re: Aos 3 -> aos 4
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2011, 02:34:45 AM »
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This thread needs bewbies

[youtube]WNDlf6hA6TY[/youtube]

Thank you, but we already have boobs here.

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I've already written what the purpose was. Is it really that hard to read?

Huh?
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Re: Aos 3 -> aos 4
« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2011, 02:39:07 AM »
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Bully and goldfish... I guess there could be a connection there.

No, you'll have to "suprice" us and explain that.

And I don't think taking contrary positions to yours is bullying, its an opinion.
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Re: Aos 3 -> aos 4
« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2011, 02:41:23 AM »
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You didn't get that either? Well, sorry but there's nothing I can do for you then.

I'm not the one having communications (and spelling) difficulties.

We should sick Franko on you.

Then you'd experience some true bullying.
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Re: Aos 3 -> aos 4
« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2011, 02:49:56 AM »
You keep going Hotrod. You're doing a great job selling the product so far.
BTW - Are you using OS4 right now? And if so, on what browser?
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Re: Aos 3 -> aos 4
« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2011, 03:17:50 AM »
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I'm not trying to sell it... did you really miss that reply?

Absolutely must have. And whether you realize it or not, you are trying to convince us of your OS' superiority.

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Right now I'm typing this in NetSurf. Yes OS 4.

That's cool.
At least you're sincere.
You should try a less combative tone.
We (the non-OS4 using Amiga fans on the site) are not your enemies.
We actually enjoy hearing advocates of different solutions air their arguments.
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Re: Aos 3 -> aos 4
« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2011, 03:20:14 AM »
Quote from: commodorejohn;642512
Buy me a Cyberstorm and a copy of OS4 and I will :P

Sign me up for THAT deal too!
The last time I checked a CSPPC was more expensive then an Acube motherboard.
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Re: Aos 3 -> aos 4
« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2011, 03:24:52 AM »
Quote from: amigadave;642514
Rigo?  I am not familiar with this example.

My 2 cents,

HyperionOS4.x is a fanatic religion.  You are either a believer, and nothing is going to shake your faith in what ever Hyperion does or says, or you are a disbeliever, and do not wear the Rose Colored glasses that come with every sale of HyperionOS4.x.  It is truly a shame that the faithful did not win the rights to the "Amiga" trademarks, instead of only the AmigaOS4.x, as now they are plagued with the fact that other companies can and will sell new Amiga computers that will not run HyperionOS4.x.

I am not against them surviving, actually I wish they would have done a better job and had succeeded in creating an OS and hardware that I could afford, believe in, enjoy using, and would want to buy.  But with the current management and the decisions already made, and continuing to be made by Hyperion, I have serious doubts about them continuing for much longer.  But, like their predecessors before them, they will hang on to their rights to the name AmigaOS4.x and AmigaOne with a death grip for as long as they can make a dime from the few "faithful" that remain.

Just another sad chapter in the long history of the Amiga.  It just has to be made into a movie some day.  There is too much treachery, incompetence, greed, betrayal, etc., to miss the opportunity for a great story.  If only someone could weave a love story through the middle of it (besides the love of the original OS and hardware), it would be an instant box office success.

WOW! And David is one of our more polite posters.
Whatever purpose you did have in creating this thread Hotrod, I doubt its being served.
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Re: Aos 3 -> aos 4
« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2011, 03:41:15 AM »
Ah, we're doing all right.
Since the adoption of Mac support, numbers have steadily climbed.
We were here before you and we'll probably outlast you.

He's an avant-garde painter.
She's a rock singer who helped popularize rap.
Caught in the middle of the collapse of a tech-industry giant, can they save their relationship?
Coming this summer to a theater near you:
AMIGA: The Warhol/Harry Story.

That's funny! But can anyone picture Andy Warhol expressing an emotion, let alone love?
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Re: Aos 3 -> aos 4
« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2011, 03:51:06 AM »
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"We where here before you"? Ehm... I got my amiga -87 and been a user since then. I also bet I was on this very site before you and the crazy MOS people decided to go on repeat mode *MOS buy, rules, better than everything. AOS 4 bad, bad for everyone in every way* *MOS GOOOOD, AOS 4 BAAAAD* ... This was a better site before that. Higher standard.

I don't have any numbers and I very much doubt that you do so completely pointless like pretty much everything you write.

Actually, if you'd read anything I've posted here and on other sites, I've always supported all the NG OS'.
I've picked what I thought was the best of them, but I see nothing wrong with an alternate choice.
And actually, I like what Amiga.org has become.
A community with more then one standard to bear and for the most part interacting harmoniously.

Interesting that you find my comments "pointless" as you keep answering them.
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Re: Aos 3 -> aos 4
« Reply #14 on: June 05, 2011, 03:55:38 AM »
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"We where here before you"? Ehm... I got my amiga -87 ...

In '87 I was the manager of a company that designed, built, and sold 68K based multi-user, multi-tasking computers.
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