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Offline Iggy

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Re: Who would like to see MorphOS on SAM?
« on: May 29, 2011, 03:37:40 AM »
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I agree, it will never happen.  The only way it might happen, is if ACube un-bundles AmigaOS4.x from the SAM boards and also pays the MorphOS2.x development team a porting fee to complete a version of MorphOS2.x for any of the SAM boards.

I guess you could say that the SAM boards are already available without AmigaOS4.x through their "Industrial Purchase" program, but I don't know what the minimum number of boards is for such purchases, so it doesn't really apply to Amiga/Morph users that only buy one board at a time.

Dave's got the key right here. SAMs are bundled with OS4. The MorphOS development team isn't likely to do a port to a board that guarantee the sale of a copy of Hyperion's OS.
And no one has offered to pay for the port. Not going to happen.
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Re: Who would like to see MorphOS on SAM?
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2011, 03:38:56 AM »
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I read something similar about the x1000. Trevor Dick and his people sent Morphos a motherboard to try and get them to port over but they didn't want to because the cost would be too high just so a few users could try it out and see if they like it or not. This is significant as the x1000 is significantly more expensive than the Sam is...  :)

I asked Piru about that. He says they never received a board.
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Re: Who would like to see MorphOS on SAM?
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2011, 03:55:14 AM »
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I'm not surprised. Has anyone received a board yet? Have they made any yet? What about the beta testers?

I think they recently claimed the first five had been made.
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Re: Who would like to see MorphOS on SAM?
« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2011, 02:40:55 PM »
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Whatever price you paid (you got screwed btw), similar speced PC machine is much cheaper. The question is why MorphOS is not available for the cheaper hardware if their goal is to have their OS on cheaper, off the shelf, easily available hardware?

P.S. It's hard to find Macs here and the one's I found are terribly expensive/outdated.

Wherever you are Mac must be over priced. In my area Powerbooks sell for about two thirds of the price of an Intel Atom Netbook (which to me seems to be a reasonable value).
I got my G4 Powermac for next to nothing and the only expensive component I've got in it is the CPU accelerator card.
Mac Mini's are generally about $200 and G5 Powermacs run between $200 and $400.

As we have a base of software designed to run on PPC processors and Mac prices ARE generally pretty cheap I wholly support the MorphOS development team's decision about what hardware to support.

As always, if you want cheap X86 hardware, use AROS.
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Re: Who would like to see MorphOS on SAM?
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2011, 03:16:09 PM »
Pointed out to me by Andreas Wolf on MorphZone:

"EUR 499.50 for the industrial version".

The SAM460 "lite" version is available in single quantities without AOS4.1.
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Re: Who would like to see MorphOS on SAM?
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2011, 04:25:04 PM »
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@Iggy

Thats without VAT (and still to expensive for a board that could barely compete with a 2004 PegasosII).

Oh I completely agree with you Kronos. Until I gout my accelerator card I had about $75 tied up in my 933Mhz Powermac. With better AGP graphics, a USB 2.0 card (only $5), and a Soundblaster Live (Ebay also $5).
A completely better deal and better performing.

Like I stated earlier, I support the direction you developers have chosen.
I can't wait to see Powerbook support and G5 support will be low cost (with performance on par with the X1000).
Heck, I've already tested an R400 graphics card (re-flashed) in a G4 and a G5 to make sure we'd have that option on both machines (and be able to move the cards from one to the other).
I'm enjoying the hell out of this.

The main problem I have with the SAMs is their use of relatively low performing Applied Micro processors.
Even the relatively dated G4 dances rings around them at similar speeds.
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