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Offline Iggy

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Re: How many Amiga users are left?
« on: May 27, 2011, 05:18:22 AM »
Quote from: mingle;639622
I'd be very surprised if there are more than 1000 active users worldwide.

MorphOS users number almost 2000 by themselves. AOS4 numbers aren't known (ask Hyperion). I suspect that the number of legacy users may be higher than estimated. UAE users may be more numerous than legacy users (what's your fastest 'Amiga'? A PC).
My own loose estimate? Slightly under 10,000.
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Re: How many Amiga users are left?
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2011, 04:14:18 AM »
Quote from: amigadave;640519
Very interesting estimates/claims, do you have a source for your "almost 2000" MorphOS users?  Since there are less than 1,200 MorphOS2.x registered systems and many MorphOS2.x users have more than one registered system, the number of MorphOS2.x users is obviously less than 1,000, so you must have some info about how many MorhpOS1.4.5 users are still actively using the free version of MorphOS1.4.5.

Also, remember the definitions in this thread/poll for "Active" users, not just occasional users, or people that own an Amiga, or Amiga-Like system and turn it on once in a while.  Do you think there are "slightly under 10,000" active users?   I doubt it.  There could be that number of people that are still have some level of interest about Amiga systems.

Actually David, if you think about it, my estimate is pretty conservative.
I'd be willing to bet that there are more unregistered users then registered users.  And even if the number was only 10000, then MorphOS users alone account for as many users as previous total estimates.
The real question is how many copies of AOS4.X have been sold and how many AROS users are there?
We know that the number of legacy systems that remain functional has to be falling each year, but the number of NG system users is rising.
And there is quite a lot of interest in FPGA recreations of legacy hardware.
I will cede to you that the 10K figure may be interested users and active users combined, but the total potential market is definitely higher than 1000.

Then there the statement on the main page of Amiga.org:
Stats                                                                                                                                                     Members: 8,317
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Re: How many Amiga users are left?
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2011, 05:58:27 AM »
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Do you think these unregistered users have cracked the reg code, or are they just half-hour heroes?

I hope the later. Cracking MorphOS is probably fairly easy, but I'd rather give them the 111 euros.
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Re: How many Amiga users are left?
« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2011, 04:29:55 PM »
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Cool - seems totally reasonable.  I've been using my 4000 mostly, but I still have the 2000 and have dreams of expanding it.

Personally, I'd max out the 4000 first.
That's still the Amiga with the highest performance potential.
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Re: How many Amiga users are left?
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2011, 06:56:43 PM »
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Oh of course :D

ZorRam 256, Deneb, Picasso 4 and a 4060/Cyberstorm3...

Nice. How's it feel to have better USB support then most AOS4 users?
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Re: How many Amiga users are left?
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2011, 01:06:46 AM »
Wow scary times to be in this situation guys (the leander, SamuraiCrow, AmigaDave).

I was primarily working for myself and doing some subcontracting, but I recently took a three day a week job at a local casino to help fill out the lean periods between jobs.

The current.perpetual stagnate economy and the competition for available jobs combine to make a bad situation even worse.

I wish all you guys the best. I've followed each of your posts and believe each of you to be intelligent capable individuals.

Hopefully in each of your cases, things will turn around.

BTW - SamuraiCrow, please tell me you're not carrying giant student loan debts (like the ones I will probably carry with me to my grave).
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Re: How many Amiga users are left?
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2011, 02:11:02 AM »
Quote from: SamuraiCrow;641632
I owe about $3000 in student loan debt right now so I'm not too bad.  My programming partner Sidewinder, has his masters' degree in computer science and is in worse shape than I am.  He also has a wife and child.  His wife has student debt as well.

Nope, that's not too painful. With interest, I'm up to about$40K.
Frankly, when I see anything from my Alma Mater I want to flip them the Fickle Finger of Fate.
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Re: How many Amiga users are left?
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2011, 02:57:46 AM »
Quote from: the_leander;641637
Time to force the implementation of my grand plan a little ahead of schedule.

Hopefully that doesn't have anything to do with ruling the world, Alan.

Near as I can tell, thanks to the Global recession and throat cutting competition the only recourse is to seriously hustle.

I'm not relying on a plan anymore. I'm selling what I've got, wherever I can, too the best prospects (not necessarily the highest bidder).
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Re: How many Amiga users are left?
« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2011, 03:44:49 AM »
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Good man. :)

Thanks, but its more of an evolution made necessary by external events. I would much rather pursue opportunities in areas I have more interest in.

I just can't afford to.

Thank god I've still got my personal interests (like following the developments in our market). What helps keep me positive allows me to focus on everything as a whole.
"Not making any hard and fast rules means that the moderators can use their good judgment in moderation, and we think the results speak for themselves." - Amiga.org, terms of service

"You, got to stem the evil tide, and keep it on the the inside" - Rogers Waters

"God was never on your side" - Lemmy

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