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Mc68060fe133 ?
« on: April 13, 2011, 11:29:32 PM »
What is this processor?
MC68060FE133
I can find no technical data on it.

BTW - I'm watching Tron Legacy right now. Seems like a better movie than the original (not that that would take much work). Creepy seeing the CGI "actors".
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Re: Mc68060fe133 ?
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2011, 02:11:18 AM »
This processor designation may be fake. The only vendors that list this processor are Chinese. The highest clocked 68060 processors run at 75Mhz. A 75Mhz surface mount 68060 with no FPU or MMU is officially labeled MC68EC060FE75.
So, the "MC68060FE133" may be re-labeled  MC68EC060FE75 processors.

Apparently these fakes have been previously noted on the Natami forum, but their designation seems highly dubious.
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Re: Mc68060fe133 ?
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2011, 04:15:36 AM »
Quote from: mongo;631548
I'm pretty sure they're fake.

Two out of four Chinese companies advertising this have responded with offers of 6.6 to $8 ea. in 100 piece lots.
Who knows what these are.
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Re: Mc68060fe133 ?
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2011, 01:39:36 PM »
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I still think these might be fakes.
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Re: Mc68060fe133 ?
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2011, 10:30:19 PM »
It's all very curious. In less than 24 hours I have received over a dozen offers to sell me this component.
They all quote a apparent Motorola part number (not Freescale), often ROHS certified, usually with a 2008 date.
None of these (in combination) make sense.
And I'm pretty sure there are no 133Mhz 68060 processors.

I'd almost be tempted to ask for a single processor to check it out, but I have no way to test an SMD 68K.
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Re: Mc68060fe133 ?
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2011, 01:46:50 AM »
Freescale support...

"I can confirm that MC68060FE133 is not a valid Freescale part number.  I  cannot speculate about what the devices you were offered might actually  be."
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Re: Mc68060fe133 ?
« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2011, 10:27:12 PM »
If these processors are re-marked MC68EC060FE75 processor then they may still be of some use. The highest price quote I've received is $16.50. Compared to the $50 I'd have to spend on a 68060 RC60 ($50) this is quite low. They would lack MMU and FPU functions, but conversely they would operate at a fairly high speed.
I could see using these in a low cost Amiga accelerator.
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Re: Mc68060fe133 ?
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2011, 01:10:39 AM »
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Isn't it SMD unit used by one of Natami 68060 CPU card?

http://www.natami.net/gfx/NAe60F/NAe60F_1.jpg

Yes, a surface mount 68060 is used on one Natami processor card. If these are EC or LC processors then they lack MMU and FPU, but 75 Mhz is pretty fast and they're cheap.
At $34 cheaper then the cheapest 68060 RC60 these still look attractive.
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Re: Mc68060fe133 ?
« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2011, 04:53:12 AM »
Quote from: amigadave;631955
The key part of your quote from Freescale above is "not a valid Freescale part number".  It could be a valid "Motorola" part number that was produced before Motorola was taken over by Freescale, couldn't it?

I am still not convinced that this part is not a legit 133MHz part from Motorola and would like to see more proof before being convinced that it is a re-badged 75MHz part.

No Freescale is a spinoff of Motorola's semiconductor division. They have all the information that pertains to previous products.

And of course it not a 133Mhz part as I just received notice from Freescale that the 68K topped out at 75Mhz (not including overclocked processor).

As this may not be a 75Mhz part. It got the packaging of a series that went up to 75 Mhz, but there were slower derivatives.

The simplest thing to do would be to assume its a MC68EC060FE75 ans install it in a board that could handle that chip. Then you could start at about 50Mhz and then progressively raise to speed til it fails.
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