X1000 general questions

[Iggy]

What does the X1000 offer the gaming world besides nostalgia?

The fastest PPC processor available in the Amiga community and modern PCIe expansion slots.
This board operates at almost twice what the SaM460 does and the processor includes AltiVec instructions that the APM based SAMs don't have.
As it is due to be released long before G5 support is introduced for MorphOS, it now turns the performance crown over to AOS.

You get a chance to buy a system based on a really neat PPC that probably would have helped Apple raise the performance of its laptops if they had not moved to X86.

Its just a damned nice piece of Amiga hardware.
Any other stupid questions?

[Iggy]

That is to be seen.



That is to be seen (remember how underperforming OS4 was when tested on Peg2 against MorphOS) and surely the word "now" has no place at all in that sentence.

All premature, sorry. Until we see actual benchmarks its all a moot point.
But the machine has the potential to be a real game changer.
Pity it doesn't run MorphOS.

Have you seen this reference yet?

http://www.ll.mit.edu/HPEC/agendas/proc08/Day3/C1-Bueno-Poster.pdf

[Iggy]

For PPC, AROS still owns the fastest hardware since it's x86/x86_64 based.



That would have been an impressive statement, six years ago.  Today your talking about dusty boxes sitting in a warehouse for multiple years.



It's not an Amiga, it's a AmigaOne.

AROS is an X86 product, that was not the point. I was taliking about PPC. And AROS still runs on one core. Should Hyperion be able utilize both cores that would give AOS an advantage over AROS.

It's not an Amiga, it's a AmigaOne

Yes, I forgot its an AmigaOne that runs AmigaOS, currently planned "Amigas" will be Windows boxes.

Dammy, you'd shit on anything, and I'm not impressed with your opinions.

If I had the money, I'd buy an X1000. I'm sure that there are enough people that will buy one. I'm completely impressed with the machine, and intend to continue to use "dusty" PPC boxes.

[Iggy]

AROS is also PPC and is now ARM Linux hosted as well.  Yes it only runs on one core mainly do to them keeping the 3.1 API holy.  They will have to break the 3.1 API for AROS (on x86/PPC/ARM) to go SMP.



The new Amigas are x86 based, they can run Windows but will more then likely be running Linux for the time being, or something else while running AOS 3.x series in emulation, just like how OS4 runs the AOS 3.x apps/games.



It's not my opinion, I'm dealing with facts.  If you don't like the facts, that's too bad for you.



I personally don't care if you buy all 250 A1X1Ks.  I just want to point out there is AROS and it is in PPCland as well as x86land and now ARMland which means it runs on the fastest hardware, even on a single core.

You do make some valid points, but as a MorphOS user, I'm happier with the performance of my OS than my experiences with AROS.
I do expect AROS to improve as it matures, but right now I'm not happy with it.
And I don't think I'll have to buy all 250 X1000s. With that small a production run they'll sell quickly.

[Iggy]

*sigh* I have plenty of apps from the 3.x series which don't need an emulated 3.x environment to run on my OS4 machine, and likewise under MorphOS. They do just fine with CPU emulation while using the native PPC OS functions and integrating to the point where it's impossible to tell which CPU they're compiled for. I still have yet to hear how that would be possible under Linux, Windows, or indeed any mysterious, yet-to-be-written OS for the new C-USA "Amigas". The emulation on any C-USA Amiga will be utterly different to that which is part of OS4 and MorphOS, and possibly AROS in the near future.

You do make some good points (hardware-banging software etc.), but it's a shame you have to bring this "new Amiga" stuff into every conversation, even when the topic most clearly is talking about the X1000. It seems like you take every opportunity to blow your C-USA trumpet in the faces of people who are actually aware of the facts, of the shortcomings of AmigaOS machines, but still want to use them for their hobby.

We are obviously all hopelessly polarized, but its nice to have a few people in my corner.
Thanks for the post Daedalus.
And I really don't think in terms of MorphOS zealotry, or Amiga fanaticism. I'd like to see all current endeavors succeed. I'm not even negative to CUSA's projects.
I'll let the rest of you argue about the definition of what is or isn't an Amiga.