Get off the beach! Tsunami coming!

[Iggy]

Hi,

@Iggy,

Believe me I think I will hire myself out to the gov't, cause I have plenty of wind power, and after my wind power is used to run the turbines, they can always burn it for steam power.

smerf

Maybe we can harvest the methane from all those cow farts that Republicans were blaming for Global Warming until they decided to deny climate change totally.

[Iggy]

I meant who cares about me being missinformed, not who cares about this disaster...   man I wonder how native English and Americans read posts from europe.. I think this is how the MOS/OS4 war began,. . too many eastern europe/europe people with bad english trying to communicate in polite tone on the web but it ends up insulting each other instead.. lol

Actually, you'd be quite right about the interpretation issue. Oddly enough, I find some of the Germans on MorphZone to be better at wording concise sentences in my native language than those I construct myself. But then the Germans have always been obsessed with precision.

Although there was never really a MorphOS/OS4 war. There was/are some hard feelings over statements made by Ben Hermans. Bur I, and I think most MorphOS users, are perfectly willing to see Hyperion join the party.
If Hermans had ever issued an apology on his attacks against the developers of MorphOS (and what, from all I can tell by studying the history of the matter is a completely legitimate legal OS) he might have help mend some of the hard feelings on the part of MorphOS developers.

Why do you think Piru's comments on the X1000 are so limited/terse?

[Iggy]

There are some solution glimpses about that. But the problem is always that it is cheaper to produce standart radioactive waste than to deal with it.

A few countries, like Rusia, Canada and France have a special kind of reactors, that have been in an experimental state for at least a decade, they are called "Fast Breeding Reactors". They are more expensive than ordinary ones, but they are an interesting path to a solution to the nuclear waste problem.

I'm glad you brought up that, because you're right, there are ways to build reactors that produce far less waste material. And even if these reactors are more expensive, they reduce the cost of on-site storage so the can be competitive.

[Iggy]

Franko is right. For a lot of people, this is just a popular news piece that will soon fade away (once the media and their owners have reaped all the profits and used to story to motivate people towards their own causes) and be forgotten. The only people that will remember are those who were there, those who lost, those who suffered.

The rest of us with just sit here cozy and complacent waxing and waning philosophical like a a bunch of greeks in the bath house. Sighh...


...though I do believe there is that small percent of us who are better and deeper than that.

Frighteningly enough, what you've said is too true. We're a little like people slowing down to get a better view of a highway accident. Safe and secure in our own environment, we can express horror at the calamities that befall others, but we don't have to really face it like those directly experiencing it.

[Iggy]

Of course! Science is a fact.

It's the idea that people stare into a little box and accept it as truth, and then those unresearched "truths" go on to be embedded into the education system, even though they were never proven as anything more than theory in the first place.

Man is so small in the grand scheme of things.

BF Skinner was a scientist, US Naval Diver submersion data were culled from the "science" performed German concentration camps, Sarin and VX were invented by scientists.

I kept this line of logic going but I got up to about 100 things scientists have been involved in that no one should be proud of when I realized something.

Science is about facts/truth. But science has no particular conscience. It produces results that aren't always used for good purposes.
And a blind faith in science is the worst hubris possible.

[Iggy]

To a great extent yesterday's experts are dismissed by today's and be sure today's will be just as greatly dismissed by tomorrow's.  Change means difference/ difference means product / product mean profit.
Understanding that in the presence is wisdom.

Agree; Man (in the context of humanity) is so small in the grand scheme of things.
Especially when he or she is standing and facing muddy debri filled wall 5m high and 5 km wide moving faster then they could ever hope to run.

Oh that is so true. When faced with the laws of physics illustrated by a natural disaster we are little more than naked apes running in terror.

By the way, one of my old college professors used to define expert as "anyone who makes three correct guesses in a row".

[Iggy]

Really science at times is about mistakes/getting things wrong. A few years ago, I asked a professor how he'd learned so much about a specific species of organism were raising in one labd. He told me that he'd learned from his mistakes. That he was probably aware of virtually every way there was to kill this organism and that if I wanted to work with them I was probably going to kill quite a few myself.
Science is definitely not all successes, but a process of weeding out the failed ideas.

Or as Dr. Weird would put it "This might work...This will never work!"

[Iggy]

I noticed that when I eat food, it later comes out my butt.

Hey Xdelusion, if that's food coming out of your butt, why don't you eat it?

OK Guys (and Gals).  we've one explosion each at the Fukushima Daichi  complex's Reactors #1 and #3.
Now there has been an explosion at Unit #2 and radiation has increased four fold.
There are fears the reactor vessel may be damaged and the water level has dropped repeatedly in #2 exposing the fuel rods.
             Olli Heinonen, former deputy director general of the International Atomic Energy Agency                                                                       

"I think the situation is still very, very grim - we are by far not over the worst"


So, three reactors at one site, all possibly in danger of total meltdown, the  Japanese without further recourse (asking the US for assistance as these  reactors were US designed), and the US relocating the aircraft carrier  Ronald Reagan to avoid further contamination.

Anyone care to make further remarks minimizing the potential danger here?

[Iggy]

can't trust em' as far as you can throw them, just like the politicians. They draw power from fear, propaganda, hype, and desperation.

"Would I lie to you?"

I never really paid attention to that parallel, but you're right.

Don't worry folks, over half the almost 140 reactors in the United States were built with the same GE technology used at Fukushima.

[Iggy]

"Bringing good things to life"

Like...painful, horrifying new ways to die.

Science!

[Iggy]

Japan is a small place, and widespread contamination would be a serious concern. They can't just quarantine a 30 mile radius like they did in Russia.

Can't? If this gets worse and there is widespread contamination, what choice will they have?

Number two and closing on the number one position Fukushima Japan.

Whatever happened to the coverage of the volcanic eruption?

[Iggy]

I keep telling our cats to get a job.

It just occurred to me that one day we might have to compete with something like that.

Genetic engineering is becoming quite sophisticated. What's to prevent some seriously demented genetic engineer from trying to create our replacements in the workplace?

Would those creatures have rights or would they be processions?

[Iggy]

Missed that series of books.
The idea looks grimmer than the plot synopsis of each book would indicate.

100,000 years of indentured servitude? Do they ever discuss why no uplifted species ever revolts against its sponsors?

[Iggy]

+1

"God doesn't play dice".....

Heisenberg states otherwise.

People that think they understand the nature, intent, or thoughts of God are delusional.

However, Xdelusion is very correct about living with nature. The ecosystem requires it or one day your species gets taken out. This is the VERY real action of evolution. These vast majority of plants and animal species that have existed exist no more.
Almost all humans live in discord with their natural environments. And no science will rectify this. As such, is it any surprise that all "civilizations" see the seed of man's destruction in his own self-absorbed nature?

[Iggy]

Anyone who claims that they know what God *is*, is delusional.

Not even prophets have that knowledge.

Absolutely, we are all just men.
And yet it seems impossible for God not to exist.
Anything that can not be dis-proven is likely to have its basis in truth.
Nothing I have ever learned from any scientific discipline has ever challenged that fact.

[Iggy]

Science only strengthens my belief in the unseen (Which is all faith is really).

Absolutely, science keeps pointing to truths that reinforce my belief.

For instance, the old evolutionary model that insists on "missing links"? Doesn't seem to work that way. Organisms change in "jumps".
Fur or feathers, but NO intermediate stage.
Birds evolving four chambered hearts and warm blooded metabolisms independently of mammals.
Just studying biology you have to wonder at the obvious, recurrent similarities even in unrelated organisms.
This is not just parallel evolution, there's something inherent to it that defies explanation via random events.