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Re: Aros ppc port to ps3.Now that we have homebrew.
« on: January 20, 2011, 03:19:23 PM »
The Ps3 has always been able to run Linux and now in game mode we no longer have to worry about the hypervisor restricting access to the RSX.
Graphics should no be much more powerful.
But I wouldn't overestimate the power of the Cell processor. If you only take the PPE into account (and don't consider the extra power provided by the SPEs) than the processing power of the 3.2 Ghz Cell, because of its in order execution pipeline is actually lower than the processing power of the 1.8 Ghz 7447 (G4) in my Powermac.
I do think its a neat system and it offers a good performance/price ratio.
And since their is a PPC Linux hosted version of AROS already, it shouldn't be too hard to get AROS running on a PS3.

The only negative I see is that I can assemble an X86 AROS system for only a little more and that port is the most polished. But so what, we're hobbyist and I say if it can be done, why not?
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Re: Aros ppc port to ps3.Now that we have homebrew.
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2011, 04:40:39 PM »
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Have you got any experience writing graphics drivers for undocumented NVidia hardware??


Very good point Nicholas. That why I think Linux will probably be the best place to start with this. The hardware is undocumented, but not completely unknown. There are already projects underway to create 3D accelerated drivers for PS3 Linux.
Then Linux hosted AROS will show some improvement and then if some courageous soul want consider a full AROS port - we'll see.
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Re: Aros ppc port to ps3.Now that we have homebrew.
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2011, 05:35:14 PM »
Well, we know we're not going to see a port of a commercially available NG OS like AOS4 or MorphOS since that would place the developers in a precarious legal situation.
That only leaves AROS as a prospect on the PS3. I can't see enough interest to justify a native port, but it will be interesting see AROS run under Linux.
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Re: Aros ppc port to ps3.Now that we have homebrew.
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2011, 07:44:27 PM »
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Just found this http://psl1ght.com/ this is what i have been looking for.It seems that it enables user to code programs that would run under gameos,that is a kind of sdk.I will try to install it along with anything else and try to go from there.

Go for it. I don't think Nicholas was trying to discourage you. But if anyone want to try, again, why not?
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Re: Aros ppc port to ps3.Now that we have homebrew.
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2011, 08:55:38 PM »
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I am installing the sdk under ubuntu right now,since it is over 2.3 gigabytes of data it will sure take time,but it seems to install ok.After i manage to install the examples i will try to get aros on it.I take it that aros works under framebuffer if no 3d acceleration is found?While there is some 3d access i dont know if it is enough for it to run on gameos.In which aros forum should i post if need any help?

I want to do the port,if no gfx drivers are required i believe i can do the port.

Wow! For today, you are my hero.
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Re: Aros ppc port to ps3.Now that we have homebrew.
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2011, 02:21:05 AM »
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Thanks for that will check it out later.It appears the sdk is installed ok,i can output any program i want and i get an elf file for ps3,i also now have the geohot utilities for making pkg files.Now i need help to setup a different configure file that would understand the ps3 sdk parameters,now this is where i need help.

I went to the people of ps1ght sdk joined irc and asked them questions,let's hope we get some answers,i will probably go to the dev-ml like you said.

If you know anyone who can help me in this please send me a message and tell me who to talk to.
Kind regards.

You've already gone in way over my head on this.
Btw - I'd like to second the sentiment that stated you shouldn't the negative comments too seriously. Good luck.
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Re: Aros ppc port to ps3.Now that we have homebrew.
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2011, 04:56:54 AM »
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3rded too. Indeed, if we all lived by sensibilities, we wouldn't have OS4.1, 4.0, AmigaOnes, Sams, etc. at all. If you're interested, go for it!


Or MorphOS, AROS, or FPGA projects and all legacy hardware users would be running Window. Yes, its definitely time to stop making sense.
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