What is the future of Amiga?

[Iggy]

Well, unless you have invented a time machine that will let you prevent the Amiga from ever being created, or the earth is completely destroyed in some kind of catyclism, the Amiga will exist in some form in the future.

The question is what form will that be.

Correction - forms

[Iggy]

Answers: well other machines can't...


Beat the Amiga's bootup time...

You haven't seen MorphOS boot have you Franko? If you have to boot your Amiga from a hard drive (not just rely on ROMs) , I think we may have you beat.
The POST that the machine performs before booting takes longer than booting the OS.
In that fashion MOS is very Amiga like (small, efficient, and quick to boot).

[Iggy]

Nope, your right their Iggy I haven't seen how quickly a MorphOS system boots. I can only speak for the couple of iMacs I've got and seeing other folk using PC's.

The iMacG4 can take anything upto 1minute 15 seconds to boot and this new iMacG5 I've got can take as long as 1minute 48 seconds and sometimes they take even longer to shut down, not exactly fast eh...

I just tested a warm reboot. From shut down to booted back up - 34 seconds.
This ain't OSX!

Btw - I must be spending too much time around the English and Scottish. Those mushy peas are digusting, but the bangers and mash are making me kind of hungry.

[Iggy]

Verdict? Interesting...

Verdict? I seriously considered putting my own eyes out. I'd even eat the mushy peas if I could renounce those images.

[Iggy]

Anyway we could stay more on topic? I'm surprised that post of Kesa's didn't get us shut down like the fat lady thread.

My ideal new system to carry forward the Amiga concept?
I'm not sure it wouldn't be too different from an Xbox360.
Multicore PPC related processor.
GPU on the same die as the CPU (only with a more integrated approach than the current Xenon).
Obviously more memory and expandability (and a keyboard and mouse).
Modern genlocking and VIVO components and high quality audio would round it all out.

All with a big enough backer and large scale production, yeah 500 Euros might be possible.

[Iggy]

This IS a family thread! Were you offended when Marilyn Monroe's skirt went up because of that air vent below? I think not. How is the above any different?     :confused:

I don't remember seeing Marilyn's rear or private parts. And I personal would have prefered that. Frankly, even though male, I find no particular beauty in male posteriors or genitalia.

[Iggy]

And who did they tell? Word of mouth sells hardware and 50+ people barely have 1-2 friends if any.

My 73 year old mother owns a laptop and a netbook, both of which she picked out on her own (and figured out how to use on her own).
She still works part time 2 to 3 days a week as a nurse anesthetist (earning about $50K a year).

And to close, she probably interacts with more people in a day than you do in a month and undoubtedly has at least twice as much residual intellect left than you were born with.

As I approach 50, I'd ask you to keep your smug youth centric comments to yourself. Personally I see no evidence that youth has any advantage in intellect and it certainly hasn't any advantage in wisdom or common sense.

[Iggy]

Since when have sales had anything to do with the intelligence of the buyer? Do you not think sales are influenced a lot by networking? And that that older people do less networking? It's a huge generalisation on my part and I'm sure you can find exceptions. Perhaps this generation will buck the trend?

That said older people have more money and tend to steal media far less (possibly cos they are incapable?) and so they still have a good market input... (just look at eBook readers!).

Well, you've totally confused me with the polarized posts. And I do agree that generalizing is a poor form of judgement. I've found that its best to withold judgement of people until they really prove their character.

Trusting in my first impression (of a person) has led me to some big mistakes. These days, while I generally expect to be disappointed by people, I frequently find myself pleasantly surprised (a good arguement against prejudgdice).

[Iggy]

The lack of marketability is hurting the attempts to keep the Amiga alive, but its also placing the development in the hands of people that care about the system (they have to be commited - they sure aren't making much money).


And "Trickle Up Poverty"? That has been a phenomenon since Reagan was in office. You remember Reagan don't you? the President who made the largest increase in our national deficit in history (followed distantly by George W. Bush as the second highest deficit increaser).
Got love the people of Florida, they'd shoot themselves in the foot to elect the worst possible choice. At least my state (Delaware), a State that is just as or more conservative than Florida wasn't voting for the wacko candidate (Christine O'Donnell)

[Iggy]

We'll I aint a millionaire but I'm comfortably well off, no born with a silver spoon in the mouth here, working class & proud to call myself so, left school aged 15 worked damned hard for every penny I have until aged 37 when an accident which led to Ill health caused me to retire early but by then I had made enough to live off till the end of my days. (and before any one shouts sponger or living of the state, no I don't claim benefits of any sort as my savings put me way beyond that bracket). Hope that clears that one up...

So yes while I have the money to do whatever I want Amiga wise, it's only that I've not got around to buying the bit's and bobs yet to get my miggies on the net but I should be doing so in the near future...

I don't know Franko. You might find web browsing on an Amiga a tad painful. Even using MorphOS has presented some compromise (flash support under OWB is awful).

Hey, I hear you've got some early season snow over there. How bad is it?

[Iggy]

I know it can't do everything but I'd like to give it a try anyway, Im not expecting to use it for YouTube and stuff like that, but I'd like to see just what it can do...

Well the thermometers at -8c just now and a good 12 to 14 inches has fallen since yesterday, my squirrels are buried up past their heads...

Yes, there's more to the internet than YouTube and I'm getting by quite well w/o flash.

As to the weather, you have my sympathy. It doesn't bode well when England and Scotland get foul weather this early in the year.
I live in a Mid-Atlantic State in the US that usually only sees a little snow each year and last year there was almost three feet in my back yard when they were trucking snow into the Canadian Winter Olympics.
Some people insist there no evidence of climate change, but if there isn't then Mother Nature has had a strange sense of humor recently.

[Iggy]

RIAA black helicopters with men in black will soon arrive ..

Yes! Remember, in the US, most legal issues revolve around property riights. That's what our grand promises of freedom and the pursuit of happiness have de-evolved into.

If the number of poor poeple in the US continues to increase (the way it has it recent years) we can take Steven Tyler's advice seriously and "Eat the Rich".