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Offline Iggy

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Re: The Future Of The Amiga - Where Do You Stand...
« Reply #14 from previous page: November 29, 2010, 03:29:30 AM »
Quote from: klx300r;595153
but the point I'm making is that we are moving forward and finally not going backwards when AI had us all in a strangle hold.  Amiga has it's own dedicated hardware that's brand spanking new and reliable....so far the Sam440 was successful enough for ACube to make the 460ex & hopefully the X1000 will be successful enough for A-Eon to make the next 'better' PPC Amiga hardware on so on etc. etc. etc.

AROS is rocking along with no schedule to make the x86 camp happy so the future looks bright for both PPC and x86 Amigans world wide:knuddel:


There is something there we can agree with. It's a shame we're not entire rid of Bill McEwen. Now he's managed dilute the definition of what an Amiga is. Frankly. I can't think of anyone who's done us more harm.

And new hardware! This is great.

I now you don't agree with those of us using Macs, but consider this,  MorphOS was designed to run on PPC equipped Amigas, it was ported to one of the first NG platforms (the Pegasos), and our developers are doing what they can to keep our system alive and moving forward.

And, personally, I disagree that there is a blue vs red camp fraction. I'm glas AOS is in Hyperions hand and I wish them continued sucess.
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Re: The Future Of The Amiga - Where Do You Stand...
« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2010, 04:02:24 AM »
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Its the first thing that came to mind.
 
The point Im trying to make is.. I'd love to be able to buy something thats completely compatible with amiga stuff, has a bit more oomph to it, is an actual machine rather than just UAE, and is new.
 
 
My crappy PC running linux was 400 bucks at fry's. It does more than Morph, aros and OS4 ever will be able to do, combined.
But that's not really what it's about for me.

You almost sound defensive about your position. I can understand the Linux/X86 arguement (why not I own PCs).
But your Linux box (unless you're running AROS) doesn't allow you to develop new code using tools and system calls similar to those we used to use on the Amiga.
And I have copies of Linux, Windows and UAE. MorphOS feels closer to a real Amiga than those solutions. And why not, it was intended to move the original legacy hardware forward.
BTW - Did you know the endianess of X86 processors is different than the 68K and PPCs (and ARM for that matter)? X86s do not run legacy code as well as they could because of this. Its a good thing that X86s are fast because they lose about 50% of their efficiency running this emulation.

You want a better solution for your Linux box? Consider native X86 AROS. As its UAE integration improves and native apps become more common, this systems going to become more and more authentic in action and better in performance (than many other NG OS').

And really authentic (and probably still a bit slow)? The FPGA projects (Replay, Natami, Minimig) are probably the way to go.
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Re: The Future Of The Amiga - Where Do You Stand...
« Reply #16 on: November 29, 2010, 04:38:39 AM »
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doing new software development is about the only real purpose I see to this.


What software exclusive to the Amiga are people really wanting to run on newer, more reliable hardware?   Im actually curious.  Because if its just to run internet crap, play mp3s, and fight the M$POWER, I don't see the point still.

A good question. Might be a the basis for a new thread. What software would you like to see and how can new Amiga hardware set itself apart?

Btw - Arkhan, you still use and develop code for MSX? The MSX TurboR iis still a pretty neat system. Never caught on in the US, but nice specs.
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Re: The Future Of The Amiga - Where Do You Stand...
« Reply #17 on: November 29, 2010, 05:35:35 AM »
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I think if theres enough people wanting the new hardware for exclusive purposes, its a pretty solid idea...

I cant say I'd agree with new hardware just to have another daily computerbox9000



Yeah, I do some game programming and music stuff on the MSX.   I have a few MSX2+'s, and the Turbo R.

I wish it had caught on in the US.  It is a damn fine 8-bit machine.


I'd agree with that last sentiment. The TI VDG used in the first machines was pretty advanced for its time and the specs on later machines continued to improve. Its hard to believe people wetre willing to put up with crap like the AppleII when this system was available.

Microsoft should have pushed this in the US. They could have given all the other 8-bit systems a run for their money.
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Re: The Future Of The Amiga - Where Do You Stand...
« Reply #18 on: November 29, 2010, 06:04:02 AM »
Quote from: Franko;595189
Well there was a poll recently about what software folk would like to see for the Amiga and a new Browser came out on top, so that ones been answered.

And this thread basically has folk expressing their views on which kind of hardware should be the future for the Amiga, so that seems to be covered as well... :)

Great Franko,
So we need FPGA hardware emulating an enhanced Amiga to run an enhanced  web browser like Firefox/Timberwolf?

That does it, I'm disregarding the opinions of other Amigans.
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