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Re: Ease off bashing AmigaONE X1000?
« on: July 25, 2013, 06:43:12 AM »
It's not an issue of the X1000 being slammed specifically here.  Harsh, insulting criticisms from people driving their own personal preferences has long been an issue here.  Any given week it might crop up as "Oh well OS4 sucks 'cuz MOS has a pretty butterfly logo", or "MOS sux cause OS4 is actually called Amiga OS and has the boing ball".  There's weirdo zealots on each side.  It's mutually assured destruction at its finest, really.  A bunch of people using obscure OS's no one in the real world has really heard of, let alone used - arguing semantics rather than simply use what they prefer and encourage the scene as a whole without any of this OS propaganda nonsense.  It's like arguing religion.  There's no winner, there's just what fits your ideals personally the best.  You use what you like, I'll use what I like.  Try everything you can and make your own choices, and discuss opinions civilly.  You'll be a better person and have more fun if you try everything you can get your hands on and make your choices from all the offerings.

I use them all, OS4, MOS, and fiddled with AROS a bit.  I can offer slamming criticism to each of them, and praises to each of them.  I understand those saying OS4 hardware is terribly overpriced and I've often darn near prayed for Hyperion to support the PPC Mac lineage.  I admittedly overpaid greatly for underpowered OS4 hardware in late 2008 when I pre-ordered my SAM 440.  I am using MOS more and more (and have paid for it), and becoming more familiar with it, but it's still a bit foreign to me and I don't really like old Mac hardware,  so I still prefer OS4 at this time.  I was extremely disappointed after buying a PPC Mac laptop with the understanding the onboard, in-built Wireless would be supported in the most recent MOS release, which it isn't.  AROS I've never been able to get running 100% solid, but I am still fiddling with it and hope to gain more experience with it.  Each OS, or hardware platform - we will all have different experiences with each offering and we'll all end up using what we most prefer.  What each individual "prefers" does not quantify their OS of choice as "the best and only real Amiga solution".  We are all Amigans, and it drives me nuts when people seem to get off on driving factional lines between something as personally preferential as OS choice.  If your OS of choice differs from mine, I'd *LOVE* to hear your opinions on it in a civil fashion - but the "Derp, u use Brand X OS variant, u r a poopyhead" argument gets real old, and people HAVE left A.org over it.

To blatantly chide users of an "enemy OS" in the Amiga scene is cutting off your nose to spite your face.  There are facts and opinions, both are easy to flesh out and discuss openly and politely.  Give your opinions.  Opinions are not fact.  Open conversation about our choices in what is a very small hobby computing market is what at one time made this forum site what I considered the best Amiga site on the web.  Nowadays, it can tend to resemble people flinging feces at each other like zoo monkeys.

Open, civil criticism of different variations of what is essentially the same darned thing for all intents and purposes is counter productive at best, and horribly destructive and childish at worst.  Civil criticism can be done as easily as venom filled bits of diatribe here, and the latter only makes you look as someone pushing an agenda.  Foolish at best.

Just once I'd like to see us all get on the same page.  We're all running the same race here.  It's a hobby, and I do find it shameful and redundant to still be playing the "OS Wars" cards that we were playing in the 1980's era Amiga vs. IBM compatible days.  We don't have the numbers to drive wedges between factions, as a whole.

So much time is wasted driving wedges between the "camps" - wouldn't it be just great if we could simply agree that we're all Amigans and maybe use our time better to get more up to date programs like Open Office, modern printer drivers or modern, capable web browsers on *ALL* these "modern" Amiga's?
 

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Re: Ease off bashing AmigaONE X1000?
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2013, 07:58:54 AM »
Don't buy what you cannot afford, or what you don't see as being worth the money.  Example:

The vast majority of this world cannot afford a Ferrari, but I don't see people rising en masse and picketing the streetcorners in Maranello claiming that the Ferrari Corporation is the Devil incarnate :)

I have been critical of the pricing on all the OS4 machines, and I was one of the early adopters - but I also didn't ever assume they would come out at bargain basement pricing.  Base model SAM boards are now nearly one third of what they were new, so it seems pretty clear to me that it's a widely known and held opinion the platform has the stigma of being hard to enter price wise.  I paid nearly $1000 for my SAM board when it was brand new, and I am happy with it, just like I am the free Mac I am running MOS on.  Machinea I knew all along is underpowered in real world terms even compared to the cellular telephone I owned in 2009.  Different strokes for different folks and all that.

Want a cheap or even free Amiga experience?  There's MOS and AROS.