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Re: MorphOS : PowerMac G5 Port Update
« on: January 04, 2013, 12:42:53 PM »
This place is so god damned predictable, lol.  News breaks, 5 pages of "hey, that's cool!" before things turn red and blue.

Hey, Red and Blue.  Let me remind you of something, and I do so as a member of both camps.

Your benchmarks and fancy numbers mean nothing.  Your dual core specs, fancy tacked on special chips, mean nothing.  No one is rendering on these machines.  No one is encoding audio on them.  People doing benchmarks on any of them to show superiority over the "enemy" are doing so because they have small pee pees, lol.  Same guys are using their daily driver Mac's and Wintel boxes for anything that requires a bit of grunt, not 10 year old PPC tech.  Use what you like, whether it be a Legacy machine you've sunk $4000 into, one of the various emulation solutions, or one of the NG PPC machines.  Whether it be OS4, MOS, AROS or plain old C= WB/KS - we use it cause we get a kick out of it.  Not cause it'll do "blah blah faster in such and such benchmark that no one ever uses on the machines anyways".

There will be no rebirth of the Amiga in the mainstream.  The days of the Toaster are gone.  These machines need to be kludged to do things a 5 year old smartphone can do in regards to real world usage.  Sorry.  It's a hobby now.  Enjoy it.  I do.

I can find an Intel commodity PC in the trash with Windows on it that will run circles around any of these NG platforms.  I can find a PPC Mac in the same trash bin and leave OSX on it and it will be infinitely more functional than MOS would be on it for 99.99% of people in this world.  I can fire up Blender on a 3 year old netbook and run circles around an X1000 running Blender.

Dickie measuring contests are great fun, until everyone shows up at the ruler packing a one inch package, you know?

Enjoy them for what they are.  A real fun alternative.
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Re: MorphOS : PowerMac G5 Port Update
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2013, 04:00:11 PM »
I'm fine with comparisons.  But I'm also happier to put them into real world perspective - no one in their right mind is going out to buy 150 used PPC Mac's or X1000 machines to set up a render farm.  It's money in the toilet, an exercise in inefficiency.  A $300 commodity wintel box could outrun a whole cluster (I use the term cluster loosely, unless you know of a form of networked load balancing/load sharing that would make said cluster on NG systems actually work) of any of the NG Amiga's.

I appreciate the numbers.  I do find them interesting, but not real world meaningful in the least.  And I'll use the same real world comparison I always have:

I own a '32 Ford and a 2000's GMC SUV.  I live in Canada, it's 30 below here right now, so much snow I need to shovel myself out every morning to go to work.  The '32 Ford is a kickass car, I did every lick of work on the thing myself, it runs high 11's on the quarter.  I love it to death, the car is a complete blast.  The SUV, well, that's a Soccer Mom truck.  Impresses no one.  Very little fun to drive compared to the hotrod.

However, common sense prevails.  When I need to run to the beer store or to the market for a gallon of milk in the middle of winter, guess which car I take?

The SUV.  The proverbial commodity PC of vehicles.  It doesn't matter if the hotrod is cooler, more fun, and way more unique - it's a matter of best bang for the buck and ease of use.  I've tried using my MOS and OS4 pc's as a daily driver - it simply isn't doable.  I'd starve to death trying to do my job using one of these systems as a sole machine.  I could not even get my daily jobs list via the cloud services I use - both OS4 and MOS browsers barf all over the place even though the browsers on each have come a long ways in a quick fashion.

All the benchmarks in the world don't matter when 1% of 1% of the people they really pertain to are actually using the machines solely for the things the benchmarks refer to.

However, I'd love to be proven wrong - anyone using a NG Amiga system as their sole machine for things like transcoding, rendering, etc, speak up.
I've been wanting to hear out of these people for 5 years and haven't thus far :)

The benchmarks numbers don't matter in the least to the majority of people, simply because people aren't buying these machines en masse to do the things the benchmarks are supposedly proving.