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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« on: May 05, 2012, 08:09:25 PM »
Unbelievable...  Had they just dug into the matter more, they would have realized TheDaddy was not supplying anything of the sort, or using trademarks he has not licensed.  Instead they shoot their mouths off and make themselves look utterly foolish.

The irony of the situation is this is from a company that for quite some time had images of "concept" machines stolen off other sites with all credit removed on their site.

Abhorrent and entirely unprofessional.  A "friendly request" should have come in the form of a PM to TheDaddy, not via some sort of fist shaking on a public forums.
 

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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2012, 01:17:05 AM »
The consistency of your unprofessional behavior is staggering, Leo.  Every given moment your defense for past unprofessional behavior is "well , we admit making mistakes", but the mistakes just keep on coming, unprofessional as ever.  

First you air this on that other site, then come here huffing and puffing about "vocal critics" and other tripe, effectively doing nothing more than harassing TheDaddy over here, IMHO.

Would a PM not have served the purpose better?  Had you taken 5 minutes to look at TheDaddy's proposed product, you would have seen he's not selling these as an Amiga branded item and said decals were not included in the package.

I've got an Amiga sticker on my SAM 440 - I better check with you guys before I throw it on ebay, I guess, eh?  Nah, actually I'd sell it as a "Amiga SAM 440ep" and tell you to get stuffed if you barked at me.
 

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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2012, 03:57:10 AM »
I'm not big on all in one cases, never have been, so I'm likely not a part of this market, but need to say one thing.

If there's ever been a reason for Kickstarter to exist, it's for projects like this.

http://www.kickstarter.com/

Get 'er done.
 

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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2012, 06:01:49 AM »
Like I always said about Amiga fans - there was very few who had any "middle ground" when it came to the legacy Amiga systems regarding footprint of the various systems.

I was a rabid fan of the big box systems, I hated the wedge cases.  Some guys were completely opposite.  I found the 3000 T and 4000 T to be drop dead gorgeous back then, but in these modern times no one in their right mind would want a PC case that big.

Just another reason to consider a big box replica "in homage" case in the future, I guess.
 

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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2012, 08:49:43 PM »
Adding drives by default will just lose sales, IMHO.

Many people won't want optical drives at all.  If they do, most drives come with white and black faceplates, so getting a fair match color wise should be OK should they choose to add one.

Other than when I build a new gaming machine, I rarely, if ever - put optical drives in my machines.  Just as easy to have a directory full of .iso imaged discs on my NAS box that all the machines in the network can access.
 

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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2012, 03:37:06 AM »
Quote from: BigBenAussie;692154
@proteus
This is about trademarks, not about inventions.
The two are not equivalent and you are misinterpreting the situation.
We are not a big bad corporation but the very definition of the little guy.
It isn't about hunting anyone....it is about intent.
He can't feign ignorance that he was not doing anything wrong.
It was not an innocent mistake.
Given "The Daddy's" previous public attacks and contempt towards our company it was clearly intended as provocation and a publicity stunt.
He is using trademarks in his publicity materials he knows very well he cannot use legally. End of story.
We don't post here for the advertising, let me assure you.

No, you don't, do you.  I quit counting the number of people I've spoken to here that have said they won't consider your products based on your behavior here.

And once again, you come here and make a complete unprofessional arse of yourself?  I assume business school or PR training isn't on your resume, eh?

I hate wedge cases.  I'll buy the case TheDaddy is offering just to support the cause.  Many others will as well.  And the FIRST THING I am gonna do is slap a Commodore sticker on one side, and on the other side - an Amiga sticker.  I'll put the build process videos on YouTube in HD.  Hey, I'm just a guy slapping stickers on a case, I ain't selling anything.

Every public statement you make about this issue Leo, there's a guy reading it that may have been considering your product, but when he reads your nonsense he makes a decision to NOT deal with your company due to the unprofessional aspects.  Why aren't you understanding all of this?  It pains me to see people making the same mistakes over and over again.

You botched it when you tried to do a C&D on a public forums, in public.  Now it's like watching a guy shoot himself over and over in the foot.
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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2012, 03:58:02 AM »
Don't confuse him with facts, Darrin.  It'll make his brain itch, which will result in another 4 days of delusional ramblings..
 

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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2012, 04:21:18 PM »
Dammy and TMHG lecturing about trolling, now I've seen it all.  Might as well trot the ghost of Hitler out in a pair of bunny slippers to lecture us about racial tolerance.  The irony is so high around here.  :roflmao:

The first guy being a guy that would just as soon see A.org be renamed
"cusaistheonlyamiga.really.com, the latter being a guy that can derail a thread about prices of tea in China into a MOS vs. OS4 war.

Beyond funny.  If you hadn't noticed, the majority of people here are not denying it was in C-USA's interests to do what they did - the sticking point was the extremely unprofessional and public way they did it.  I've said it before, I'll say it again - I just wish they would go away entirely from A.org.
If I'm in the market for a Linux PC, I know where to find them.

But maybe I'm missing something.  Maybe this is the new 2.0 way of running a business, but I don't recall seeing Jobs or Gates on hobby forums sites whining and making threats about their likenesses being used (which was not ever the case in TheDaddy's story, he was more than clear the item would *NOT* come branded as shown).
 

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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2012, 10:07:49 PM »
Quote from: Vlabguy1;692368
Hmm.. BigBentheAussie is pretty unprofessional.  Indicative of how CommodoreUSA is run??  So what does this BigBen do for CUSA, living in Australia?  I thought CUSA is
in Florida.


BigBentheAussie is Leo Nigro - CTO of Commodore USA.  Unsure how he does his job from across the world.

http://www.commodoreusa.net/CUSA_Corporate.aspx
 

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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2012, 05:32:19 PM »
We are 20 years past any "market leader" possibilities, unfortunately.

It's solely a hobby platform in the true sense, any of the real "Amiga" offerings, anyways.  Never going to see mainstream use again that impacts the Apple and MS dominance in the least, numbers wise.