AmigaOS 4.1 Update 4 News

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Takemehomegrandma, go away.  I'm a pretty open dude when it comes to the various "modern" platforms, but your nonstop gum flapping about things you likely haven't used is hysterical.  It's OTT and completely annoying.  If you want to get down to brass tacks, there was issues with the last MOS update too.  It's a hobbyist market, use what you like and enjoy.  Guess what?  All OS's with user numbers in the hundreds or low thousands are not exactly "primetime" and bugs will be seen.  You are to MOS what Dammy is to C-USA.

There was nothing catastrophic about the latest OS4 update.  In fact there was nothing wrong with what Hyperion did, wasn't their issue.  If OS4 is not your cup of tea, fine.  It simply was not Hyperion's doing, and if you had gone thru the process yourself you would have seen that.

I own OS4 and MOS machines, but the constant catty nonsense coming out of a few of the fanboys here (any camp) when they likely haven't explored all the options is extremely offputting, and in fact the reason I have not registered MOS thus far.  Sorry to you devs that work your butts off, but there's enough toxic weirdos in in the Amiga community and I won't pay for the privilege of being around them, lol.

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*ALL* you do here is slam on anything you feel isn't "THE TRUE AMIGA", Takemehomegrandma.  Have you ever used OS4 on a modern SAM?  Many of the OS4 "issues" you are claiming as fact simply are not true, lol.  Talking head nonsense, and it's offputting to see the division of the camps drive people away from otherwise good offerings.

The most hysterical thing is how many people from your side of the camp have been apologetic via PM's to people about your uppity fanboyism, lol.
People have outright avoided some software offerings due to this, and that is not an exaggeration in the least.  People on your side of the fence have apologized and said "please ignore the yappers that slam on anything other than our product".

Use what you like, and everyone should be thankful we have ANYTHING vaguely resembling the Amiga, nevermind the fact we have a handful of choices for Amiga OS's to pick from (MOS, OS4, Aros, legacy, etc).

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I will ask you again Takemehomegrandma, and please answer the questions:  have you used said OS on a modern, native PPC machine?  Did you personally apply the 4.1 u3 update yourself on a system?  If the answer is "yes" to both, what sort of issues exactly did you have?  If the answer is no, you have nothing but hearsay to go on, sorry - Talking head nonsense.

I do, and did.  I hit an initial problem with some rogue MUI programs/libs that monkeyed up the patch, just as I have hit problems with mainstream OS's and "third party" programs.  (See OS X Lion, or newer versions of Windows breaking programs)

It's not an issue of "perception" in the least dude, lol.  It was a problem with third party programs as far as I am concerned.  I'm well aware of the shortcomings of OS 4.1, but talking out of ones hindquarters and claiming "vague observations" as "fact" is wholly silly.

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First I've heard of the latest update being slow to boot.  From BIOS screen to fully usable Workbench screen is 5 seconds for me (SATA SSD drive), faster than the previous versions under exact same hardware..

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I don't think anyone knows, but I imagine you'd have to pay up again I'm afraid.

The best place to ask isn't here but on the Hyperion forums themselves, they'll know. It does make sense to offer a free upgrade if you buy after a particular date, I think.

I am not paying jack all for any 4.2 upgrade.  I'd sell the SAM and OS4 first.  I've been the FIRST guy to defend OS4 lately, but no.  Just no.

I love the thing and really enjoy it, but honestly the price for the OS was $160 in my currency.  My last OEM Win 7 64 DVD cost me less than that.
OS X Lion was $30.  In fact I bought W7 64 bit Ultimate full version OEM and OS X Lion for a similar price total.  

Both Windows and OS X show notable progress, where as OS 4.1uX updates are just fixes.  4.2 won't make my SAM 440 do backflips - it's a hobbyist machine I have stuffed in the corner that runs an old school telnet BBS that barely anyone calls.  These are not mission critical machines, and I won't be milked like a cow for upgrade fees, lol.

The difference from 4.1 to 4.2 will not be like going from XP to Win 7.

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MS did not charge for the fixes for either issue mentioned.

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I never had to pay one thin dime for the K6-2 or USB fixes for Windows 95/98, or any other incremental service pack.  Only people I ever heard having issues with that back in the day were the ones not running legal copies of said OS.

I've never paid a cent for any Windows update or fix within release cycle  Full versions, of course (95 to 95, 98 to 2000, 2000 to XP, etc.)  Service packs have never been a pay for deal as long as I have been using Windows.