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Re: C64x Unboxing videos
« on: July 09, 2011, 01:25:05 PM »
You must have missed the past year where the C-USA cheerleaders have lied, slandered, insulted, harassed and threatened virtually anyone they got a chance to here on Amiga.org.  Dig around a bit, you'll find enough to keep you reading for days.

No one gives a shit about their products, it's their treatment of the community and questionable business practices that have made the C-USA affair such a dramafest.

If people wish to buy an mini-itx x86 board running Linux crammed into a replica case, Godspeed.  Just be aware what you are getting.  As for C-USA relating to Amiga - that's nonexistant, they have no Amiga offerings on the market right now, only the 64, which afaik does not yet even come with "Commodore OS" or an emulator for C64 stuff.

Personally, I am curious to see reviews on the product they are currently shipping to show up on reputable review sites.
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Re: C64x Unboxing videos
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2011, 12:52:28 AM »
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Just wish people would give more support to projects like FPGA Arcade and NatAmi.  If there's a true successor to the Amiga legacy, it's these guys like Mike/Yaqube and and the NatAmi team down there in the trenches with soldering irons and compilers blazing.  And yes, I say that as someone who paid for a SAM 440, which I do enjoy.  In this day and age, we gotta root for the little guys and those that came before them, like Georg Braun (GB 1000) and Dennis van Weeren (Minimig).  The FPGA Arcade and NatAmi should fill a huge gap in the market, providing a top performing "legacy" style Amiga that can be used for more than just games.  Will the price be high, compared to a 3.5ghz windows PC?  I am sure it will, since you can buy a well equipped x86 PC for a few hundred bucks off the shelf.  This is a hobby market, and no one can complete against the big guns price wise.  I'll pay a premium for a good niche product.

The C-USA products are Intel/x86 PC's.  No more, no less.  Any sales, hype or buzz they make won't further our causes or best interests and Commodore fans and the respect for the legacy of said products.  While I have no love for their business practices, I wish them well - but anyone thinking that C-USA will bring Commodore back from the dead and into the mainstream is delusional.  What they sell are commodity PC's running Linux.  No bashing here, plain facts.  They aren't selling any more "magic" than any other PC maker slapping commodity hardware in a shiny case.

You are buying a Linux PC from them, wth the promise they will release some form of integrated and seamless emulation solution, C64 OR Amiga.  You can obtain that yourself at a far lower cost with far better performance, but I am sure C-USA's products will appeal to some and I wish said buyers the best, sincerely.
 

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Re: C64x Unboxing videos
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2011, 04:26:58 PM »
Didn't take long for the cockroach squad at C-USA to latch onto that story, and spam like it was their idea and for their benefit on Twitter, lol.

Sadly predictable.
 

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Re: C64x Unboxing videos
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2011, 11:49:50 PM »
Ain't gonna see any of these at any retail chain like Best Buy, lol.  That isn't the market, and that was the first preposterous claim they made.

This is the world of commodity hardware.  They have about as much chance at a Best Buy as an up to date, full fledged "real" A 40000000 Teeee with a quad core 5ghz CPU and a gazillion gigs of ram would, even if that's our own little wet dream.

People go into the mainstream retail chains for XBox games, cell phones, "i" devices, etc.  Times have changed.  There is not enough market to even consider warranting the shelf space unless the market is gobbling them up like peanuts.  The days of wandering into a computer shop where the owner, whom you knew by name, shook your hand  and showed you all the new stuff - long gone, sad to say.

No old fart that owned a C64 nearly 30 years ago is lining up out the door of a retail chain chomping at the bit to get their x64.  The salesman would tell him to "buy this $200 pc, it's more powerful" or upsell them on a high end Mac.
 

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Re: C64x Unboxing videos
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2011, 02:23:48 PM »
Thing that puzzles me though - as the "head magnate of a multimillion dollar worldwide computer empire known as Commodore USA", how does he still have the time (and a reason) to come on little old A.org to talk shit.

Barry/Digitex, go away - you're being unprofessional.  If people want your products, products I assume you have full faith and confidence in - you are beyond this childish forums nonsense and "toothless crackwhore" business.  You aren't defending your name or product, you are dragging your own name through the mud.

Would you go on ABC Morning News to demo your product and blurt out "Such a value!  Buy our 64x and still have enough money left over to buy a toothless crackwhore!".  

No, you wouldn't, so don't do it here.
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Re: C64x Unboxing videos
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2011, 09:09:05 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCe7-QQOM1U

Looks like any other Ubuntu 11.04 install to me, assuming he installed it off the included disc shouldn't it have some branding?  
Lack of a hardware based eject for the BD drive?  :laughing:
 

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Re: C64x Unboxing videos
« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2011, 12:17:33 AM »
The old "can it run Crysis" meme went out years back.  Any PC in the last 3 years can run Crysis just fine, lol.  My netbook from 2 years ago can run Crysis at low settings.  FYI, Crysis was releases in 2007....

Quit being dumb - and Crysis in low ql mode (yes, that's low ql mode - as a Triple SLI PC owner, I know this well) isn't much bragging rights going on FOUR years after the game was released.

How's the heat running Crysis?  :lol:  Install another fan yet?  Bet those newfangled games play real well with that limited keyboard.  Drill any holes in it yet?  That 140+ degree case bottom of those machines must be a real treat.  Maybe someone will sell officially branded laptop stands/coolers that you guys seem so fond of lately.
 

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Re: C64x Unboxing videos
« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2011, 10:01:13 PM »
Numbers then, Dammy - otherwise you're talking out of your hindquarters again and 9 of the damned things might have been shipped.

Having some heat problems with them, I see.  Was reading the one fellow had to tear his apart and install better/additional fans in his, which is when his wireless networking started to work reliably.  So much for that warranty.  Not sure if that was before or after he had to use a notebook cooler stand to cool the thing down.

http://www.commodore-amiga.org/forum/7-commodore-os-configuration-and-themes/5631-c64x-configuration-a-debugging?limit=15&start=45&lang=en#6079

quote:  "Coretemp reporting idle temperatures of nearly 190F"

Getting close on the temp cap there:  http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Atom/Intel-Atom%20D525%20AU80610006225AA.html  
100c being 212f
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Re: C64x Unboxing videos
« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2011, 12:37:45 AM »
Only thing is, Eliyahu - people are having massive problems with the damned things.  Overheating is a common problem, so bad that wireless networking doesn't work and a guy is forced to crack the case, void warranty and put new fans into, as well as run it on a laptop cooling stand.

The things are a goddamned trainwreck for some of these people.  A "nice creation" doesn't run at such high core temps, lol.

How's the "Cherry Brand" keyboard when the underside of the case is at 140 degrees?