Amount of MorphOS copies sold

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No one cares about numbers of the various camps.  It's a niche OS, just like all our Amiga OS's.  If you enjoy it, enjoy it - having a dickie measuring contest over pissant numbers is silly.  If the Morph devs get a meal out of their hard work even via registrations, kudos to them.  Thankless stuff, this hobby OS market when it comes to cash.

In the time it took me to type this, something like 2000 Android activations were done - see how numbers are stupid?  

http://www.networkworld.com/news/2012/022712-android-850k-256646.html

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@ Hooligan

I quit counting at 7 people that I spoke to that said they were so put off from TMHG's MOS propaganda (on A.org specifically) they won't register MOS.  I imagine most are running Linux on their PPC mac's now, or stuck with OSX.  

I'm one of them, x2 - 2 Mac Mini's.  In a small community, one loudmouthed guy that creates statistics and "facts" is just another moron in the scene I won't pay to be a part of a gong show.  We heard it all...  Hyperion was charging for all 4.1 cycle updates - false.  u2 didn't work for anyone at all - false.  Microsoft charged for all in cycle service packs, ALWAYS!  And that makes the 2.7 to 3.0 free jump for MOS the bees knees!  More bull****.  Fabrications and lies.  The only claims not made was AROS causes abortions and the X1000 caused the holocaust from this guy.  BUT MAN, THERE WAS A BAR GRAPH!!!111!!11!! TMHG is your "Dammy".  Enjoy.  LOL.

Think of it this way, like I do.  I'm an open minded guy, willing to listen to anyones opinions.  After 6 weeks of the Jehovah's Witnesses showing up every 4 days trying to convert me by hammering on the door at 8 AM on my day off, even if I was even interested in what they had to say - no.  Just no, lol - get the eff off my lawn, I ain't buying what you are selling.

The dude seems to be your product evangelist, and I'm all for people being 110% enthusiastic about the products they use.  However, you ask why people would avoid a product that has people passing off bull**** as fact?
It's a small community, whether it be MOS, AROS, or AOS.  I ain't paying 100 euros to register MorphOS to listen to horseplop from fanboys like some of these guys if I need support from "official" forums.  Bad enough having the Gospel crammed in your craw here.

Note:  I am not singling out MOS - I'm well aware all camps have their people like this, even back in the days of BBS'ing there was heated debate like this about "factions".  However, back then it was a bit different - to use a computer, you had to know your ****.  Picking a platform said a lot about who you were and how you conducted yourself, but in this day and age in such a minuscule community as the Amiga community - the divisional clownshow gets real old.

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If 10 "Brand X" fanatics in a general, non Brand X community spam and tell tall tales at every general purpose community site with personal agenda backing it, to the point it is a pain in the ass - do you not see why it would turn some people off "Brand X" product?

I have choices - I didn't (and won't) buy Brand X's product, and I quit following any of their forums despite the fact they have a super product.  I won't pay reg fees for the pleasure of that type of community.  I'll never get another PM or email haranguing me about my choices in OS for a platform that the world forgot about 20 years ago.  Too much BS for a hobby.

The Amiga isn't Audi, lol.  You are missing the point.  My Audi effs up, my Macbook effs up - I phone Audi/Apple, take them into a service dep't.  A completely silly comparison in scope.  If I buy an OS4 rig, at some point I will need to get involved with the community.  Same for AROS.  Same for MOS.  Niche market, no support to speak of other than community.  It's not a matter of listening to loudmouths, it's a matter of being forced to be in the same pen with said loudmouths once you pick your team.  I won't pay for that pleasure, red, blue, green or whatever color.

If I buy into "Brand X OS", Brand X OS being a niche OS, I *WILL* at some time need to get involved with community forums.  I will.  Period - there's no 1-800 number to call for Tech Support.

EDIT:  When the dogs are barking so loudly they send PM's, emails, or insults for your personal choices or comments in a hobby community - it's hard not to listen to those barking dogs.

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Haha Hooligan, we had our fair share of fanaticism over here too, we didn't see many Spectrum's over here though.  Brings back a fun memory.

I remember we used to have BBS meetups - essentially just a bunch of socially retarded, pimply BBS geeks, we'd find someone old enough to buy us beer and meet at someones house.

The one time, it was a community BBS meet - not just our little circle of Amiga guys and the few PC sysop guys we kept around for comedic and/or charity value.  Everyone showed, standing room only - Commodore guys, Apple guys, PC guys, hell - even the one Unix sysop in town was there.  14 year olds, 60 year olds, everyone was there.

As expected, it turned into a drunken trainwreck, was hosted by a friend who ran an Amiga BBS at the time.  We (us Amiga guys) all woke up face down on the floor hungover the next morning, only to find the mouseball gone from the mouse of the A2000 030 the party host used to run his BBS.  This was his only computer, and back then you couldn't exactly run out and buy a new mouseball - christ, most of the computers back then didn't have a mouse.

This of course was now a holy war.  Greasy haired pimply kids loaded into their mothers cars, driving around house to house shouting at anyone who was at the party, wanting to know where the *bloody mouseball went.  Turns out one of the "IBM/MS Guys", a Remote Access sysop thought it'd be amusing if he swiped it.  

We weren't amused, but thinking back now it brings back fond memories of when being a computer user was truly something special

Shortly after that, the local FTN echomail hub decided he was going to gate all echomail through dialup net.  Ran a DOS system, took him 3 hours to toss and package the mail and we got annoyed, real annoyed - knowing full well my '060 A4000 could do it in 5 minutes flat.  I setup DLG and Mailmanager/GMS mailer and I showed it could be done so much more efficiently.  

This led to another holy war that caused 6 Fidonet nodes to drop out of our zone at one time, effectively killing off Fidonet in our small podunk town, lol.

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Very well put, Amigadave.

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Making your retort long and therefore utterly TL;DR doesn't mean it holds any water.

Right now, 99.99% of the people skimming over what you typed TMHG, and are simply saying to themselves "oh, great, more facts" and they quit reading.  Just like they have for ages when it became apparent anything you ever had to say was fresh off some weird propaganda train where numbers and facts could be invented, rather than just shut up and try and be respectful of peoples options.

The big words and eloquent statements have run dry.  You shot your spunk, told too many insane claims.  Rather than just chalk it up to "different strokes for different folks", you're still shoveling bull**** into the BS train.

You're THAT guy.  You're that turbonerd on the Interwebz that stays up nights arguing that the sky is purple, citing websites for GREAT JUSTICE in defense of what you've said.  You are being a bore.

The fact that you've been so gung ho to be utterly trolled for *over a year* (as you put it), is the most hysterical joke of all.

"Hilarious!  Astonishing!  Learn something every day about peoples mindsets!"

Just way too funny.