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Offline spirantho

Re: Classic VS NG
« on: April 08, 2014, 01:54:36 PM »
I'm NG all the way, me......

.. well, apart from the A500 with a PowerPC board (the KCS one :) ), the A600, the A1200/030, the three A1500s and the two A4000s with 200MHz and 350MHz PowerPCs respectively (the 350MHz is my work machine).

APART from that, I'm completely NG as well.

(In other words - don't sell the "classic" unless you have to. You'll regret it. All the NG systems are great, these days, but there are times when you just want to go back to the good old OS3)
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Offline spirantho

Re: Classic VS NG
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2014, 06:26:05 PM »
For what it's worth all the Acube and A-Eon machines have FAR fewer problems than the Eyetech machines.
(That said my A1XE has never given me any trouble at all... maybe I'm just lucky)
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Offline spirantho

Re: Classic VS NG
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2014, 07:05:40 AM »
Not wanting to sound like a flame, but honest question... why do you not think that OS 4 is the link between the original Amigas and the Next Gen Amigas?  AmigaOS 4 is still AmigaOS at its heart - that's a pretty big link!
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Offline spirantho

Re: Classic VS NG
« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2014, 12:56:24 PM »
Quote from: wawrzon;762665
correct me if im wrong but hardwarewise i dont see any link at all.


That's a good thing - can you imagine sticking a 1.8GHz processor on any custom chipset? It would be so much slower than the mainstream alternatives these days. What would be ideal would be a custom version of a mainstream chip like the RadeonHD chips which included AGA compatibility - but it'll never happen, partially because there's no point (nothing uses bitplanes now anyway, and it's easy to emulate the full AGA chipset these days).

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os4 is claimed to be derived from amiga operating system sources, which may well be the case, hard to tell for anybody except those who had seen the closed sources. user observable fact is that its ui tries to mimic 3.x workbench behaviour where it apparently scores over the morphos/ambient or other alternatives.


It's not mimicking anything, it is Workbench. That's its greatest asset and its greatest liability at the same time (Ambient is arguably better, but it's not Workbench - whether that's a good or a bad thing is subjective).

One thing is certain, though - AmigaOS4 is AmigaOS. That is the link.
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Offline spirantho

Re: Classic VS NG
« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2014, 07:02:09 PM »
I completely agree with there being no hardware link - you're right. But the OS is a link as it's the same OS (just a later version of it).

I wasn't actually defending Workbench (or attacking Ambient) - my point is just that AmigaOS 4 is - for better or for worse - AmigaOS, and that includes Workbench.

Ambient and Workbench both have strengths and weaknesses - as I said, Workbench is both AmigaOS 4's greatest strength (it is to many people what makes it "AmigaOS") and also its greatest liability (it's missing a lot of things expected of a modern desktop environment).
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